Din query.

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Querist : Anonymous

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14 December 2011 dear sir/madam

i have filed din-1 of director on 1/12/2011 & filed form 32 of same director on 5/12/2011
form 32 as well as din-1 both are properly approved & even mca portal shows the name of new director on signatory details.......but while filing annual return it asks for entering valid din???????i have tried 100 times but same dialouge box??

so wat can be the reason for that qurey????

are din-2 & din-3 are still compulsory???????

pls do rly

thanks

regards
tanveer ahuja

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14 December 2011 Duty of company-:

Din-3= intimation of din by company to ROC required to be filled.

file din-3 form with roc after intimation from director in DIN-2 form.

Duty of Director-:

director required to file DIN-2 form to the company for intimation of his DIN.

Then you can file annual return with signatures of the director.

Regards
Vishal Rana

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Bhaskaran Chackrapani Warrier

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14 December 2011 In this case DIN-3 is not applicable. If PAN is not mentioned in DIN-1, please file DIN-4 then proceed with other e-form filing.

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14 December 2011 Hi Tanveer,

According to me the possible reason is since your AGM date must be before 30th sept 2011, so you have taken din in December 2011 hence it is asking you to enter valid DIN.

Also clarify one more thing, In AR where you are facing the problem of entering valid din ? Which point no i mean.

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Querist : Anonymous

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14 December 2011 hi neha,

u r very much right my agm date is 27/09/2011.
my co. is a ltd co. my old director has not proper detiails of PAN so i ceased him and appointed a new director with new din on 05/12/2011.
In annual return regarding details of directors they ask for din when i paste the so called approved din of new director it says invalid format of din........
so nw wat kind of rectification i need to do with this......
this is realy urgent pls solve my query.......my co. has more than of 5 crores of paid up capital so it goes in XBRL format it is realy urgent....

i knw din 2 & din 3 does not apply in my case,correct me if i m wrong....??

somwhere i have read that din 3 is applicable only in case of directors whose appointment is before 01/09/2007.... but my director is very much recently appointed i.e. on 05/12/2011...

thanks

regards

tanveer ahuja

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14 December 2011 Dear Mr. Tanveer,

Pls appreciate that since in the annual return details of directors and shareholders is filled AS ON THE DATE OF AGM. Therefore in form 20B you dont have to mention details of your new director who is appointed on 05.12.2011.

Pls note that PERSONS WHO ARE DIRECTORS AS ON THE DATE OF AGM I.E. 27.09.2011 should be mentioned in Form 20B.

You are very much right that DIN 3 is applicable when appt is made after 01.09.2007 hence definately din 2 and din 3
filing is not applicable on your company.

For any other assistance or clarification do revert back asap.

Kind Regards, Neha
Kindly revert for any other assistance needed.

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Querist : Anonymous

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14 December 2011 dear neha,

thanks i got ur point of explanation....but one thing i want to clear is that...i m filing my 20b on current date n want to enter the details of directors as on agm..i want to ask is that i have to give details of ceased director which is not there on mca portal on current date,as well my ceased director has not valid format of PAN as told u earlier so for that reason i ceased him...nw is it ok to take him on directors list....???????? vl try with that director n let u knw soon wat happens....

thanks

regards

tanveer ahuja

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14 December 2011 Ya, Details of your ceased director will be filed in form 20B.

Thanks

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Charu Srivastava

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14 December 2011 DIN 2 and DIN 3 shall not apply in your case.
As rightly mentioned by Ms. Neha Details of the appointment and cessation from the last AGM and this AGM shall figure.

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Bhaskaran Chackrapani Warrier

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15 December 2011 Neha Ji

Please note that DIN 3 is applicable only for director's appointed PRIOR to 01/09/2007 vide clause 9 of the FAQ in http://www.mca.gov.in/MCA21/DIN1-4_faq1.html

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15 December 2011 Mr. Warrier,

By mistake i wrote after instead of BEFORE.
Thanks for correcting me.