IS DIN 3 MUST FOR FILING RETURNS?

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yesodharan (Querist)
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17 December 2008 I have 9 directors but only 6 got din2, for which i have filed din3.
but now that din is a must in ROC Return. I have collected DIN2 from 2 of the rest. As the last one is outside India, it is sure that it will take sometime and effort to get first DIN and then file DIN3.

My doubt is:-
1) can I file return without filing DIN 3 for directors?
2) Can i file return with one director's DIN omitted?
3) How many number of dins of directors needed in return? the form i downloaded have only 6 places to fill din?
4) Is there any provisions to file return without default (except being late)

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CS Vivek Hegde

CS Vivek Hegde (Expert)
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17 December 2008 Sajau

For filing annual return all directors should hav DIN and DIN 3 should b filed for all of them of they r appointed before 1st july 2007.

if u put the no of directors 9 nine places wl be created automatically in Form 20B

Bhaskaran Chackrapani Warrier

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17 December 2008 Continuing Vivek,For 23AC column is only for 5 persons. For the rest addendum can be filed.
4) Right now there is no provision.

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CS Vivek Hegde

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18 December 2008 In 23AC We need not mention all directors names. What we need to mention is the directors who hav signed the B/S and/or Directors report. If all 9 directors r going to sign B/s u r right. But for that u may need to file one more form itself, not addendum. Bcz in addendum director details wl not b there.

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yesodharan

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18 December 2008 @ Mr. Warrier
I am actually referring to FORM 20B.

@ mr. vivek
consider this,
I am getting details of directors via prefill, even for those whose din3 is not filed yet. Then why there is a provision that din3 must be filed for filing return. Is it mandatory?. i still have doubts left.

In my case all the directors are reappointed as some of them are retiring by rotation every year. No form 32 or any thing filed for them. so automatically he comes under appointed before 1st July 2007

The funniest part is that the one who's din2 not yet got is not re-elected as director.

1) Do we need to file any forms with roc for such removal or next year return is suffient? to this effect?
2) is there any time limit?

Firstly in my form what ever numbers of directors i fill , only 6 (Roman VI) Nos are shown in page 4. I was thinking probably the PDF file checks with ROC site and shows the number of DIN 3s filed. But now it seems working but the roman serial numbers shown are erroneous. May be i have to down load a fresh form.

CS Vivek Hegde

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18 December 2008 sajay

Filing of DIN 3 is must..there is no way out.

1)You need to file form 32 for his cessation.
2)Yes.. its one month. but with addl fees u can file.

Some time file wl behave like this. Thr is no perfect solution. It wl be corrected automatically..But we dont knw how?

trial and error method is best for noughty E-Forms...???

rgs

Vivek

yesodharan

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19 December 2008 thank you very much indeed.