Ca and cs
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Anonymous
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05 October 2013
respected sir,
I am pursuing my graduation (SY) and started ca articleship as I have cleared both groups.
So I wanted to know whether I can also study CS?
and is it good for job to study ca and cs both or ca can be sufficient?
I am pursuing my graduation (SY) and started ca articleship as I have cleared both groups.
So I wanted to know whether I can also study CS?
and is it good for job to study ca and cs both or ca can be sufficient?
05 October 2013
Yes, you can pursue CS,
But ICAI allows only one course with CA,
You've to fill form 112...
Frankly speaking,
Most of the students pursuing couple of courses while CA,
You can do so,
My advice is that show CS in 112 form..
Don't show ur B.com details in it...
But ICAI allows only one course with CA,
You've to fill form 112...
Frankly speaking,
Most of the students pursuing couple of courses while CA,
You can do so,
My advice is that show CS in 112 form..
Don't show ur B.com details in it...
06 October 2013
Kindly follow the right suggestion and info shared by expert above.
Please find below the exact rule in this regard:
Two courses at a time --- very much possible as per the ICSI rules.
Kindly read the information below:
PERMISSION TO STUDY OTHER COURSE WITH CA
Also go through the link below:
http://www.icai.org/new_post.html?post_id=4998
http://www.icai.org/post.html?post_id=137
The articled / audit trainee cannot pursue any other educational or professional course during the period of articleship training except with the prior permission of the Institute.
Permission may be granted to an articled / audit trainee for pursuing one additional course of study at a time during the period of practical training.
However, the Council has granted general permission to trainees to pursue graduation course concurrently with Chartered Accountancy Course by students who have passed the Foundation Examination, as under :-
(i) That articled/audit assistants having joined the CA Course after passing the Foundation Examination shall generally be permitted to pursue graduation course concurrently with the CA Course without obtaining specific previous permission of the Council under Regulations 65 and 78.
(ii) That an articled/audit assistant pursuing graduation course concurrently with the CA Course shall not be permitted to join any other course until he/she completes his/her graduation course.
(iii) That for pursuing any other course of study (other than graduation course) the previous permission of the Council through filing of form 112 shall have to be obtained by the articled/audit assistants in accordance with Regulations 65 and 78.
Form 112 is required to be submitted within 30 days of joining the course with the recommendation of the principal, failing which you have to go for condonation of delay in non-submission of form.
Thanks
Please find below the exact rule in this regard:
Two courses at a time --- very much possible as per the ICSI rules.
Kindly read the information below:
PERMISSION TO STUDY OTHER COURSE WITH CA
Also go through the link below:
http://www.icai.org/new_post.html?post_id=4998
http://www.icai.org/post.html?post_id=137
The articled / audit trainee cannot pursue any other educational or professional course during the period of articleship training except with the prior permission of the Institute.
Permission may be granted to an articled / audit trainee for pursuing one additional course of study at a time during the period of practical training.
However, the Council has granted general permission to trainees to pursue graduation course concurrently with Chartered Accountancy Course by students who have passed the Foundation Examination, as under :-
(i) That articled/audit assistants having joined the CA Course after passing the Foundation Examination shall generally be permitted to pursue graduation course concurrently with the CA Course without obtaining specific previous permission of the Council under Regulations 65 and 78.
(ii) That an articled/audit assistant pursuing graduation course concurrently with the CA Course shall not be permitted to join any other course until he/she completes his/her graduation course.
(iii) That for pursuing any other course of study (other than graduation course) the previous permission of the Council through filing of form 112 shall have to be obtained by the articled/audit assistants in accordance with Regulations 65 and 78.
Form 112 is required to be submitted within 30 days of joining the course with the recommendation of the principal, failing which you have to go for condonation of delay in non-submission of form.
Thanks
06 October 2013
Guidelines for doing other professional course with CA
Prior permission of the Council to pursue any course of study either through correspondence, Private or Regular (be it a graduation or post graduation) should be obtained by submitting Form 112 duly filled in and signed by the student his employer and the Principal of the College at the time of joining the articles or during the period of articles if intending to join or joined subsequently.
Before recommending and forwarding application of the articled assistant, the principal must ensure that:
a) The working hours for the articled assistant shall be 35 hours in a week excluding the lunch
break.
b) The office hours of the principal for providing articled training to the articled assistant shall not be generally before 9.00 a.m. or after 7.00 p.m.
c) The normal working hours for the articled assistant shall not start after 11.00 a.m. or end before 5.00 p.m.
d) The working hours for the articled assistant should not exceed 35 hours in a week excluding the lunch break and normally an articled assistant be required to work during the normal working hours fixed for articled assistants.
e) In case of the exigencies of work with the principal, an articled assistant may be required to work beyond his / her normal working hours. However under such circumstances, the aggregate number of working hours shall not exceed 45 hours per week. The requirement to work beyond 35 hours in a week should not be a practice but only in exceptional circumstances. Further, where the articled assistant is required to work beyond normal working hours, and aggregate of such hours exceed 35 hours per week, he/she shall be entitled to compensatory leave calculated with reference to number of completed working hours, over and above 35 hours per week.
f) The facility of allowing flexible office hours stands withdrawn
g) During the working hours, the articled assistant is not permitted to attend college / other institutions for pursuing any course including graduation. Accordingly, college timings of such course should not be such (after taking into account the time required to commute) which clashes with the normal working hours of the article training.
h) The working hours do not clash with the graduation or any other course, if any pursued by the articled assistant, each articled assistant registered on or after 1st April, 2008 shall now be required to obtain specific permission from the ICAI for pursuing graduation or other course as permitted under the Chartered Accountants Regulations by submitting Form No. 112, within one month from the date of joining the College or course to the ICAI.
i) The articled assistant presently registered and undergoing graduation or any other course and who have not obtained specific permission shall be required to obtain the specific permission from the ICAI by submitting Form No. 112 within six months of issue of these guidelines, i.e. by 30th September, 2008 . However those students who have already obtained the specific permission by submitting Form No. 112 need not obtain it again and the permission granted shall continue to be valid.
j) The Certificate in Form No. 112 indicating college timings etc. shall be counter-signed by the concerned principal of the college with the seal and stamp of the college and also indicating the telephone number/s and full address of the college.
k) Leave in connection with the permitted course for the days of the relevant examination may ordinarily be granted by the principal. Any other leave for such course may be granted at the discretion of the principal
Note: In case a student does not comply with the above requirements or violates any of the above guidelines, his /her article ship period shall not be recognized.
1. In case the articled assistant is pursuing other Course through correspondence / Non-Collegiate, he is required to attach the copy of the registration letter from the University in this regard.
2. The form should be submitted to the office of the Institute within 30 days. In case of delay in filing the form beyond the stipulated period, it has to be accompanied by a request for condonation and appropriate condonation fee as per the following schedule:
(i) Delay upto 30 days beyond the initial period Rs. 100/-
(ii) Delay between 31 days - 180 days Rs. 300/-
(iii) Delay beyond 181 days Rs. 1,000
Hope the above information would be of some help for the students.
Thanks
Ankur
Prior permission of the Council to pursue any course of study either through correspondence, Private or Regular (be it a graduation or post graduation) should be obtained by submitting Form 112 duly filled in and signed by the student his employer and the Principal of the College at the time of joining the articles or during the period of articles if intending to join or joined subsequently.
Before recommending and forwarding application of the articled assistant, the principal must ensure that:
a) The working hours for the articled assistant shall be 35 hours in a week excluding the lunch
break.
b) The office hours of the principal for providing articled training to the articled assistant shall not be generally before 9.00 a.m. or after 7.00 p.m.
c) The normal working hours for the articled assistant shall not start after 11.00 a.m. or end before 5.00 p.m.
d) The working hours for the articled assistant should not exceed 35 hours in a week excluding the lunch break and normally an articled assistant be required to work during the normal working hours fixed for articled assistants.
e) In case of the exigencies of work with the principal, an articled assistant may be required to work beyond his / her normal working hours. However under such circumstances, the aggregate number of working hours shall not exceed 45 hours per week. The requirement to work beyond 35 hours in a week should not be a practice but only in exceptional circumstances. Further, where the articled assistant is required to work beyond normal working hours, and aggregate of such hours exceed 35 hours per week, he/she shall be entitled to compensatory leave calculated with reference to number of completed working hours, over and above 35 hours per week.
f) The facility of allowing flexible office hours stands withdrawn
g) During the working hours, the articled assistant is not permitted to attend college / other institutions for pursuing any course including graduation. Accordingly, college timings of such course should not be such (after taking into account the time required to commute) which clashes with the normal working hours of the article training.
h) The working hours do not clash with the graduation or any other course, if any pursued by the articled assistant, each articled assistant registered on or after 1st April, 2008 shall now be required to obtain specific permission from the ICAI for pursuing graduation or other course as permitted under the Chartered Accountants Regulations by submitting Form No. 112, within one month from the date of joining the College or course to the ICAI.
i) The articled assistant presently registered and undergoing graduation or any other course and who have not obtained specific permission shall be required to obtain the specific permission from the ICAI by submitting Form No. 112 within six months of issue of these guidelines, i.e. by 30th September, 2008 . However those students who have already obtained the specific permission by submitting Form No. 112 need not obtain it again and the permission granted shall continue to be valid.
j) The Certificate in Form No. 112 indicating college timings etc. shall be counter-signed by the concerned principal of the college with the seal and stamp of the college and also indicating the telephone number/s and full address of the college.
k) Leave in connection with the permitted course for the days of the relevant examination may ordinarily be granted by the principal. Any other leave for such course may be granted at the discretion of the principal
Note: In case a student does not comply with the above requirements or violates any of the above guidelines, his /her article ship period shall not be recognized.
1. In case the articled assistant is pursuing other Course through correspondence / Non-Collegiate, he is required to attach the copy of the registration letter from the University in this regard.
2. The form should be submitted to the office of the Institute within 30 days. In case of delay in filing the form beyond the stipulated period, it has to be accompanied by a request for condonation and appropriate condonation fee as per the following schedule:
(i) Delay upto 30 days beyond the initial period Rs. 100/-
(ii) Delay between 31 days - 180 days Rs. 300/-
(iii) Delay beyond 181 days Rs. 1,000
Hope the above information would be of some help for the students.
Thanks
Ankur
07 October 2013
Yes ,Please follow procedure part so it should not be trouble from both institute,
CA + CS
will definitely boost your career as CFO + Company secretary.
It will better for you to earn membership of both the institute to bright career.
but to earn membership, it requires large time to settle in industry & practice
CA + CS
will definitely boost your career as CFO + Company secretary.
It will better for you to earn membership of both the institute to bright career.
but to earn membership, it requires large time to settle in industry & practice
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