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18 January 2010
i appeared for the second time for group 2. i got exemption in MICS in 1st attempt and i secured 66 in IDT in the second attempt. I got struck in cost in both the attempts. please tell me whether i will get the exemption benefit for both the papers, i.e. MICS & IDT. and how to prepare costing, any books that can be referred other than institutes mat and my personal tution mat.
18 January 2010
Focus on conceptual study and workout on your presentation skills. Also read the article below:
Real-time tips to deal with practical paper: Account & Cost
1. After receiving the paper in your hand give it a quick look and decide the question you are going to attempt first. Also decide the question you are going to attempt last. I urge you to consider this point very important for a good start of your exam.
2. Allocate a fix time for each question. After allocation it is your duty to finish the question with in the given time limit.
3. As per my understanding presentation of theory always plays an important role whether it is theory (Law & Audit) paper or numerical (Account, cost etc.) paper. So keep your examination copy neat and clean without any cutting.
4. In the beginning don’t read all the questions carefully as in the beginning you have enough time to read it twice or thrice. Read the second question carefully only after solving the first question as decided by you in accordance with point No. 1 of this Article.
5. Super Suggestion-1: When you give first reading to a lengthy question – Note down all the amount/figures given in the question separately. Two benefit of this exercise are:
i) When you solve the question you don’t have to search the amount/figure in the lengthy question again and lot of time saved.
ii) Chances of missing any point or amount/figure minimize.
6. Don’t change the book again and again. First focus on understanding the concept and then practice the selected book. After solving a particular author’s book solve all the questions of scanner without any help.
7. Super Suggestion-2: This point helps you to deal with lengthy course and improve your revision strategy. Select easy chapters as per your strength and gain tremendous confidence by practicing more & more questions. After gaining enough confidence remove that chapter from your final revision list. Now no need to revise that chapter during final revision and be confident about that chapter.
8. Super Suggestion-3: After completing one practical chapter select some landmark question from that chapter which covers almost all technicalities and adjustments of that chapter. Revise this selected question during final revision to recall whole chapter.
You may also put this question in ATLAS. [For ATLAS technique refer my previous Article]
9. Compulsory Question: Prepare special strategy for C.Q. Give a quick reading to C.Q. if you are comfortable with the adjustments given in C.Q. then only attempt C.Q. otherwise attempt other small questions. If you attempt C.Q. without any strategy and lost in the middle of question then “confidence ki to watt lag jayagi mamuâ€. So be careful.
10. Cost Accounting: First understand cost accounting is a conceptual paper. You can not succeed in cost account without understanding the concept. So work very hard to make your concepts crystal clear.
11. For preparation of cost account first understand the concept from study by practicing study material questions. After that practice scanner and compilation questions.
12. Operation Research: In O.R. paper my first advice would be workout on your mathematical concepts as mathematical skills are really required to excel in O.R. Paper.
13. In O.R. paper practice of ample number of numerical questions is very much required. So after understanding the concept practice more and more questions first from study and scanner and then from any recommended book.
14. Prepare yourself mentally to solve a lengthy question paper. Use scanner to understand the question paper pattern and prepare yourself a strategy to deal with it.
15. Theory Part: In practical paper also theory paper plays an important role. As per my advice prepare your theory notes yourself well in advance including the answers of frequently asked questions. This process helps you to understand the concept and save your time to search theory part here & there at the exam time. However if you got some really good notes you may use them.
16. Importance of Module Questions: As per my suggestion also practice the questions given in the study material provided by ICAI especially when you opt self study. However if you are taking professional coaching then you may avoid study material questions as normally notes provided in private coaching includes study material questions.
17. While attempting theory questions give ‘to the point’ answers. Excess theory may waste your time and spoil your exam.
18. Super Suggestion-4: Use one pen: In exam hall use only one pen. Use of this practice will save at-least 4-5 minutes i.e. time equal to write a short note. Hope you can understand the importance of this point.
19. Underline relevant point: You may underline the relevant point by using the same colour pen. Don’t use highlighter in the exam.
20. Working Note: Use working note method to improve presentation of your question. Whenever you use calculated figure in the question always mention working note no. in the bracket. For example working note no. 1 or 2 and so on.
21. Continue your question as per your concept and assumptions. Never try to match your answer with anybody else.
22. While solving practical questions full focus and concentration is required. So you have to be very calm and cool during your exam. Never make hurry when you are in the middle of a question. It may spoil your question.
23. Query Notebook: Keep a query diary with you during study time and note your queries in this diary and resolve them same day or next day. Do not keep your query unresolved. Don’t forget to mention answer of your query in the query diary.
24. Complete your paper: Try and make an effort to complete your paper 100%. In other words attempt full paper of 100 marks to fetch some extra marks.
25. If any numerical question is completely out of your reach or in case you fail to understand the adjustments given in the question then leave that question immediately and move ahead. Attempt this question in the end.
26. If this is your second attempt then finish revision of your first book as early as possible. Later on add a new book to practice more numerical questions.
27. Have a one hour group discussion with your friends regarding selected exam oriented important topic. Discuss all the theoretical and practical aspects about that selected topic.
28. Don’t use different notes rather I would suggest select your notes before starting final Examination preparation and stick with them. 10 Days before exam stop adding new topics in your schedule. Just follow your revision schedule strictly.
29. Take care of your Health: Take very good care of your health. Consider your health as a subject. Remember if you fail to perform well in this subject you are going to fail.
30. In the end just believe in yourself and your hard work and most importantly believe in God.
Thanks & Regards,
Ankur Garg
Real-time tips to deal with practical paper: Account & Cost
1. After receiving the paper in your hand give it a quick look and decide the question you are going to attempt first. Also decide the question you are going to attempt last. I urge you to consider this point very important for a good start of your exam.
2. Allocate a fix time for each question. After allocation it is your duty to finish the question with in the given time limit.
3. As per my understanding presentation of theory always plays an important role whether it is theory (Law & Audit) paper or numerical (Account, cost etc.) paper. So keep your examination copy neat and clean without any cutting.
4. In the beginning don’t read all the questions carefully as in the beginning you have enough time to read it twice or thrice. Read the second question carefully only after solving the first question as decided by you in accordance with point No. 1 of this Article.
5. Super Suggestion-1: When you give first reading to a lengthy question – Note down all the amount/figures given in the question separately. Two benefit of this exercise are:
i) When you solve the question you don’t have to search the amount/figure in the lengthy question again and lot of time saved.
ii) Chances of missing any point or amount/figure minimize.
6. Don’t change the book again and again. First focus on understanding the concept and then practice the selected book. After solving a particular author’s book solve all the questions of scanner without any help.
7. Super Suggestion-2: This point helps you to deal with lengthy course and improve your revision strategy. Select easy chapters as per your strength and gain tremendous confidence by practicing more & more questions. After gaining enough confidence remove that chapter from your final revision list. Now no need to revise that chapter during final revision and be confident about that chapter.
8. Super Suggestion-3: After completing one practical chapter select some landmark question from that chapter which covers almost all technicalities and adjustments of that chapter. Revise this selected question during final revision to recall whole chapter.
You may also put this question in ATLAS. [For ATLAS technique refer my previous Article]
9. Compulsory Question: Prepare special strategy for C.Q. Give a quick reading to C.Q. if you are comfortable with the adjustments given in C.Q. then only attempt C.Q. otherwise attempt other small questions. If you attempt C.Q. without any strategy and lost in the middle of question then “confidence ki to watt lag jayagi mamuâ€. So be careful.
10. Cost Accounting: First understand cost accounting is a conceptual paper. You can not succeed in cost account without understanding the concept. So work very hard to make your concepts crystal clear.
11. For preparation of cost account first understand the concept from study by practicing study material questions. After that practice scanner and compilation questions.
12. Operation Research: In O.R. paper my first advice would be workout on your mathematical concepts as mathematical skills are really required to excel in O.R. Paper.
13. In O.R. paper practice of ample number of numerical questions is very much required. So after understanding the concept practice more and more questions first from study and scanner and then from any recommended book.
14. Prepare yourself mentally to solve a lengthy question paper. Use scanner to understand the question paper pattern and prepare yourself a strategy to deal with it.
15. Theory Part: In practical paper also theory paper plays an important role. As per my advice prepare your theory notes yourself well in advance including the answers of frequently asked questions. This process helps you to understand the concept and save your time to search theory part here & there at the exam time. However if you got some really good notes you may use them.
16. Importance of Module Questions: As per my suggestion also practice the questions given in the study material provided by ICAI especially when you opt self study. However if you are taking professional coaching then you may avoid study material questions as normally notes provided in private coaching includes study material questions.
17. While attempting theory questions give ‘to the point’ answers. Excess theory may waste your time and spoil your exam.
18. Super Suggestion-4: Use one pen: In exam hall use only one pen. Use of this practice will save at-least 4-5 minutes i.e. time equal to write a short note. Hope you can understand the importance of this point.
19. Underline relevant point: You may underline the relevant point by using the same colour pen. Don’t use highlighter in the exam.
20. Working Note: Use working note method to improve presentation of your question. Whenever you use calculated figure in the question always mention working note no. in the bracket. For example working note no. 1 or 2 and so on.
21. Continue your question as per your concept and assumptions. Never try to match your answer with anybody else.
22. While solving practical questions full focus and concentration is required. So you have to be very calm and cool during your exam. Never make hurry when you are in the middle of a question. It may spoil your question.
23. Query Notebook: Keep a query diary with you during study time and note your queries in this diary and resolve them same day or next day. Do not keep your query unresolved. Don’t forget to mention answer of your query in the query diary.
24. Complete your paper: Try and make an effort to complete your paper 100%. In other words attempt full paper of 100 marks to fetch some extra marks.
25. If any numerical question is completely out of your reach or in case you fail to understand the adjustments given in the question then leave that question immediately and move ahead. Attempt this question in the end.
26. If this is your second attempt then finish revision of your first book as early as possible. Later on add a new book to practice more numerical questions.
27. Have a one hour group discussion with your friends regarding selected exam oriented important topic. Discuss all the theoretical and practical aspects about that selected topic.
28. Don’t use different notes rather I would suggest select your notes before starting final Examination preparation and stick with them. 10 Days before exam stop adding new topics in your schedule. Just follow your revision schedule strictly.
29. Take care of your Health: Take very good care of your health. Consider your health as a subject. Remember if you fail to perform well in this subject you are going to fail.
30. In the end just believe in yourself and your hard work and most importantly believe in God.
Thanks & Regards,
Ankur Garg
18 January 2010
Hi neha, make a trend of theory and practicals asked in exam. check importance of theory n prepare for the same. solve OR n costing theory first n then go for costing practicals. U can refer S.N. Maheshwari or Saxena Vashist after which try to solve Reliance's compiler without seeing the answer. THOSE WHO DARE TO DREAM, THERE IS A WHOLE WORLD TO WIN. Regards, CA Shakuntala Chhangani
18 January 2010
FIRST OF ALL -
"READ THE COST ACCOUNTANCY SUBJECT PRESUMING THAT YOU ARE RUNNING AN INDUSTRIAL UNIT BY INVESTING RS. 50 CRORES !" SO IF COST IS HIGH THAN YOUR COMPETITOR; YOU HAVE TO CLOSE YOUR INDUSTRIAL UNIT.
Try to understand the importance of the subject in our daily life.
For example; if a milkman sells milk at Rs.25 per kg. and another milkman sells milk at Rs.25.50; the second milkman will be out from the market.
Here see; in practical life we don't care for 50 paise but we take care of 50 paise at the time of purchasing milk.
Because it is a day-to-day expenditure.
Similarly; when we run an industry and our product's cost is high by just 50 paise per unit; we may be out from the market. Practical example now a days is - competition prevalent in mobile charges.
In cost accountancy three concepts should be taken care of :
1. Cost Ascertainment
2. Cost Control
3. Cost Reduction
First part is related to fix the selling price.
Second part is related to face the competition.
Third part is related to increase the profitability.
The elements of cost :
1. Material :
Assume yourself as Stores Manager. Correlate all these as if your Mom maintains her kitchen with provisions.
Some items are purchased on annual consumption basis, some on monthly basis and some on weekly basis.
So here ABC Analysis of inventory management is clear.
2. Labour :
Assume yourself as Supervisor.
3. Overheads : Indirect costs.
But still these can be analysed departmentwise
(functionwise : factory, administrative and selling).
In our home consumption; electricity and telephone bills cannot be apportioned on individual members of family.
Similarly; STANDARD COSTING is used for Cost Control.
Whenever prices are changed; we have to revise our standards. Suppose our previous desirable cost was Rs.10 per unit. Now due to increase in raw materials cost by Rs. 1; it becomes Rs.11. So now Revised Standard Cost is fixed at Rs.11. If cost is under this criteria; we will say it is under control.
MARGINAL COSTING is used when we are already running our factory at profit but still having extra capacity to produce. So we ignore what is our fixed costs. We compare selling price offer with variable costs only. So it helps in decision making and profit maximisation.
WHEN YOU READ COST ACCOUNTING; DON'T FORGET THESE POINTS. IN THE PERIOD OF RECESSION; COST ACCOUNTANTS PLAYED A VERY VITAL ROLE IN COST REDUCTION.
Treat all the questions as if live case studies. Accordingly apply your mind. Don't try just to match the answer.
Wish you all the Best in your Life.
"READ THE COST ACCOUNTANCY SUBJECT PRESUMING THAT YOU ARE RUNNING AN INDUSTRIAL UNIT BY INVESTING RS. 50 CRORES !" SO IF COST IS HIGH THAN YOUR COMPETITOR; YOU HAVE TO CLOSE YOUR INDUSTRIAL UNIT.
Try to understand the importance of the subject in our daily life.
For example; if a milkman sells milk at Rs.25 per kg. and another milkman sells milk at Rs.25.50; the second milkman will be out from the market.
Here see; in practical life we don't care for 50 paise but we take care of 50 paise at the time of purchasing milk.
Because it is a day-to-day expenditure.
Similarly; when we run an industry and our product's cost is high by just 50 paise per unit; we may be out from the market. Practical example now a days is - competition prevalent in mobile charges.
In cost accountancy three concepts should be taken care of :
1. Cost Ascertainment
2. Cost Control
3. Cost Reduction
First part is related to fix the selling price.
Second part is related to face the competition.
Third part is related to increase the profitability.
The elements of cost :
1. Material :
Assume yourself as Stores Manager. Correlate all these as if your Mom maintains her kitchen with provisions.
Some items are purchased on annual consumption basis, some on monthly basis and some on weekly basis.
So here ABC Analysis of inventory management is clear.
2. Labour :
Assume yourself as Supervisor.
3. Overheads : Indirect costs.
But still these can be analysed departmentwise
(functionwise : factory, administrative and selling).
In our home consumption; electricity and telephone bills cannot be apportioned on individual members of family.
Similarly; STANDARD COSTING is used for Cost Control.
Whenever prices are changed; we have to revise our standards. Suppose our previous desirable cost was Rs.10 per unit. Now due to increase in raw materials cost by Rs. 1; it becomes Rs.11. So now Revised Standard Cost is fixed at Rs.11. If cost is under this criteria; we will say it is under control.
MARGINAL COSTING is used when we are already running our factory at profit but still having extra capacity to produce. So we ignore what is our fixed costs. We compare selling price offer with variable costs only. So it helps in decision making and profit maximisation.
WHEN YOU READ COST ACCOUNTING; DON'T FORGET THESE POINTS. IN THE PERIOD OF RECESSION; COST ACCOUNTANTS PLAYED A VERY VITAL ROLE IN COST REDUCTION.
Treat all the questions as if live case studies. Accordingly apply your mind. Don't try just to match the answer.
Wish you all the Best in your Life.
18 January 2010
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