TDS
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16 October 2009
On what amount we have to deduct tax
if Professiongal Charges or Commission with service tax?
shall i deduct the TDS on Gross amount only?
Or
Shall I deduct the Net amount(with Service TAx)
Example: Commission 10000
Service Tax 1300
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11300
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If a deduct the TDS On 11300, the deductee will get excess refund from service tax amount.
Pls help me...
if Professiongal Charges or Commission with service tax?
shall i deduct the TDS on Gross amount only?
Or
Shall I deduct the Net amount(with Service TAx)
Example: Commission 10000
Service Tax 1300
------
11300
-------
If a deduct the TDS On 11300, the deductee will get excess refund from service tax amount.
Pls help me...
16 October 2009
TDs should be deduct on gross amount of Bill except in case of Rent.
16 October 2009
Hi,
Please go through the Circlar first
"Clarification on deduction of tax at source (TDS) on service tax component on rental income under section 194-I of the Income-tax Act
CIRCULAR NO. 4/2008, DATED 28-4-2008
Representations/letters have been received in the Board seeking clarification as to whether TDS provisions under section 194-I of the Income-tax Act will be applicable on the gross rental amount payable (inclusive of service tax) or net rental amount payable (exclusive of service tax).
2. The matter has been examined by the Board. As per the provisions of 194-I, tax is deductible at source on income by way rent paid to any resident. Further rent has been defined in 194-I as
rent means any payment, by whatever name called, under any lease, sub-lease, tenancy or any other agreement or arrangement for the use of (either separately or together) any,-
whether or not any or all of the above are owned by the payee;
3. Service tax paid by the tenant doesnt partake the nature of income of the landlord. The landlord only acts as a collecting agency for Government for collection of service tax. Therefore it has been decided that tax deduction at source (TDS) under sections 194-I of Income-tax Act would be required to be made on the amount of rent paid/payable without including the service tax.
4. These instructions may be brought to the notice of all officers working in your region for strict compliance.
5. These instructions should also be brought to the notice of the officers responsible for conducting internal audit and adherence to these should be checked by the auditing parties.
[F.No.275/73/2007-IT(B)]
Although the circular is for TDS on Rent under Sec. 194I but the point 3 is relevent for all type of payments subject to TDS and in my opinion has overriding effect for Circular 715 of 1995 as far Service tax is concerned.
So In my opinion TDS not to be deducted on Service Tax portion.
Please go through the Circlar first
"Clarification on deduction of tax at source (TDS) on service tax component on rental income under section 194-I of the Income-tax Act
CIRCULAR NO. 4/2008, DATED 28-4-2008
Representations/letters have been received in the Board seeking clarification as to whether TDS provisions under section 194-I of the Income-tax Act will be applicable on the gross rental amount payable (inclusive of service tax) or net rental amount payable (exclusive of service tax).
2. The matter has been examined by the Board. As per the provisions of 194-I, tax is deductible at source on income by way rent paid to any resident. Further rent has been defined in 194-I as
rent means any payment, by whatever name called, under any lease, sub-lease, tenancy or any other agreement or arrangement for the use of (either separately or together) any,-
whether or not any or all of the above are owned by the payee;
3. Service tax paid by the tenant doesnt partake the nature of income of the landlord. The landlord only acts as a collecting agency for Government for collection of service tax. Therefore it has been decided that tax deduction at source (TDS) under sections 194-I of Income-tax Act would be required to be made on the amount of rent paid/payable without including the service tax.
4. These instructions may be brought to the notice of all officers working in your region for strict compliance.
5. These instructions should also be brought to the notice of the officers responsible for conducting internal audit and adherence to these should be checked by the auditing parties.
[F.No.275/73/2007-IT(B)]
Although the circular is for TDS on Rent under Sec. 194I but the point 3 is relevent for all type of payments subject to TDS and in my opinion has overriding effect for Circular 715 of 1995 as far Service tax is concerned.
So In my opinion TDS not to be deducted on Service Tax portion.
16 October 2009
Agree with Sanjay Sir
16 October 2009
In case of Tax matters, Revenue (Govt) doesn't unfortunately allow us to use our discretion in a manner detrimental to the interest of Revenue
I therefore believe that TDS has to be affected on Gross amount including Service Tax
I therefore believe that TDS has to be affected on Gross amount including Service Tax
16 October 2009
Agree with K.V Subba Rao
16 October 2009
agreed with experts.
17 October 2009
a letter dated 30/06/2008 (F No 275/73/2007/-It B (Signed by NK Sharma-Section officer (Budget )which was a reply to clarification requested by Bombay Chamber of Commerce & Industry on the above issue .
It Clarified that tax has to be deducted on service tax portion as well on 194J /194C
Only in 194I TDS is to excluded on service tax portion .
I have a scanned copy of the letter , anyone whos needs that may email me at rajeev@rkmco.com
It Clarified that tax has to be deducted on service tax portion as well on 194J /194C
Only in 194I TDS is to excluded on service tax portion .
I have a scanned copy of the letter , anyone whos needs that may email me at rajeev@rkmco.com
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