Tds

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06 May 2013 In case any deductee submit his PAN during the year then TDS deducted in previous quarter could be adjusted in last quarter? For exp: In sep Interest paid rs 15357 and TDS deducted on it 3071 @ 20% as PAN not available but before march PAN submitted by deductee so at the time of payment of interest for March TDS was adjusted by the deductor @10% what should be the treatment in TDS return of march? Please suggest.
Thanks in advance.

06 May 2013 you have to revise the return for 2nd Qtr and have to file the return after quoting the PAN in that return

and in the return of last Qtr also quote PAN

So that person will get the credit

06 May 2013 AGREED WITH SOURABH


07 May 2013 Thank you sourabh sir and pradeep sir

07 May 2013 Can you please explain the process to deal with challan entry in Second as well as forth quarter

07 May 2013 You have nothing to do with Challan entry

in 2nd Qtr

You just have to update PAN i.e. you have to quote PAN instead of PANNOTAVBL

in 4th Qtr

you just have to quote PAN in the Statement

No Adjustment in Challan are required


just Update & Enter PAN

07 May 2013 The Only thing that can be done is mention pan no in revised return and he will get credit of tds deducted @ 20%

07 May 2013 Sourabh correct me if im wrong


07 May 2013 But after making TDS entry we should have to fill challan details corresponding to that entries for example in the month of september say there are 14 entries to which challan of september relates so for filling challan details we select all 14 entries then fill challan details but in this case challan will mismatch if we adjust TDS so what to do?

07 May 2013 Thank You Pradeep sir but MY challan is not only for this TDS it relates to other more TDS entries? Please suggest

07 May 2013 Pradeep sir you are correct

yes if you want to adjust TDS through previous challan you can as explained by Pradeep Sir

i m not getting what you meant miss priya ??


07 May 2013 I don't think there is any issue. Suppose your challan amount is 20000 for five entries Non PAN holder @ 20%- 6000, others 14000, then n revised return update his pan no Show TDS deducted and paid 3000 and 14000 against others and 3000 excess paid to be c/f.


07 May 2013 miss priya
there is no harm you can use that challan in the 4th Qtr also
it will not affect the previous entries

07 May 2013 Ok Thanks a lot to Sourabh sir And Pradeep sir

07 May 2013 Suppose Challan Rs.20000/-

1-14 Entries Challan Adjusted Rs.14000/-

15th Entry Challan Adjusted Rs.6000/- (20%)

after revising it will appear as

1-14 Entries (No change) Challan Adjt 14000/-

15th Entry Change Challan Adjt Rs.3000/-

BAlance Amount in challan Rs.3000/-unadjusted

use that challan in 4th qtr

1 Entry Challan adjt Rs.3000/-


07 May 2013 Sourabh agreed with you

07 May 2013 but she has adjusted the amount in the 4th Qtr
i mean suppose total tds required to be deducted is Rs.6000/-

& if in the last Qtr she adjusted rs.3000/- with the prv challan then she can

so there is no issue involve if she wants to adjust the TDS amount

07 May 2013 Lets take a example: In 2nd Quarter she has deducted TDS for non-pan holder of Rs.6000/- and paid also then while revising return she can show Rs.3000/- as TDS deducted and paid towards that party for 2nd qtr. She can claim credit of excess paid in 2nd quarter in same AY.

07 May 2013 sir as per the provision

suppose she paid Rs.60000/- as interest during the year so the total liability cannot exceed Rs.6000/- (10% for pan holder for that year)

so the same can be adjusted from that

07 May 2013 AGREED YOU CAN DO SO

07 May 2013 LIABILITY CAN EXCEED IF YOU HAVE DEDUCTED MORE IN A AY. 10% IS THE MINIMUM RATE AT WHICH YOU HAVE TO DEDUCT TDS. IF YOU HAVE DEDUCTED MORE THEN PAY IT TO GOVT.

07 May 2013 In my case total interest paid during the year is 48504 and total TDS deducted is 6386 which is more than 10%. Am I need to do any thing else in return?

07 May 2013 SINCE YOU HAVE DEDUCTED TDS OF INR6386. YOU HAVE TO PAY IT TO GOVT FULLY EVEN IF IT IS MORE THAN 10%

07 May 2013 Date Interest TDS
27/09/12 15357 3071
29/10/12 5434 1087
28/11/12 5434 1087
28/12/12 5434 1087
31/03/12 16845 55
TOTAL 48504 6386

Deductor is A Bank

07 May 2013 Challan for March was paid by the bank considering RS 55

07 May 2013 no you dont need do anything

Since you have paid TDS of Rs.6386/- the same has to be paid to Govt

and file the return accordingly & also revise the return of prev Qtr's to enable the person to get the credit

07 May 2013 ok Thankyou sir

07 May 2013 FOR 2ND QTR tds payable is 1536 in rev return mentioning PAN.
similarly For 3rd Qtr payable is 1631/- in rev return mentioning PAN and in fourth qtr tds @ 10% less excess paid in previous qtr is payable

07 May 2013 Mr Pradeep for your Kind information

TDS if paid as per provision in totality will not affect the transaction

there is no infringement in the same

So the adjustments can be done on the same

because the same was pending for the 4th qtr

but if the same was done previously i.e if it was not pending then only revision in PAN was the option and no other way but to deposit the tax & the person will take the credit of that amount

since here the adjustment is possible so the same can be done

07 May 2013 Miss priya the same is the case went with one of my client the bank has deducted tds on various entries & in those deduction there are entries where

Deduction are some time @ 13.5%
& some time it is 3%

but in totality it is nearly 10% so dont bother

07 May 2013 AGREED WITH YOU SOURABH

07 May 2013 If it is mentioned in provision of act then please share it with us.

07 May 2013 pls read the

section 194A(4)

The person responsible for making the payment referred to in sub-section (1) may, at the time of making any deduction, increase or reduce the amount to be deducted under this section for the purpose of adjusting any excess or deficiency arising out of any previous deduction or failure to deduct during the financial year.

07 May 2013 have you got it Mr Pradeep



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