HI ABHISHEK............................ M IN SAME STATE.......... I GAVE CS FINAL THIS DECEMVER.. PURSUING CA PCC........................ N FOR CS , I DNT TK ANY PERMISSION THOUGH I TRIED HONESTLY TO FILL 112 FOR THE SAME BUT FAILED DUE TO MY IGNORANCE N MY CA'S KAMINA PANTI.............. I HV STATED THE PROB IN EXPERT QUERY TOO. ITS STILL UNSOLVED. N AFTER GOING THRU UR POST.. I THINK THERE IS NO USE OF BEING HONEST WID THE F****NG INSTITUTE............................ U KNOW  V ARE VICTIMESED . I'LL TELL U HOW................. CAME TO KNOW FROM CACLUBINDIA'S POSTS ONLY THAT THE BIG COACHING CENTERS N ICAI'S  MEMBERS HV SUM SAATHGAATH N UPAR SE 2-3 THOUSANDS ME HAMARE JAISE SASTE LABOURS KAHA MILENGE SGAR HUM PASS HO GAYE............... N PERMISSION FOR ANODR COURSE IS IMPOSSIBLE... I DNT THINK WE SHUD WASTE TYM BY APPLYING TO THE INST FOR THE SAME.................. ATLEAST I WONT

mostly Agree with abhishek

Dear Abhishek,

aakhir tumhari galti hain, khud maana, phir mujhpe kyon gussa le rahe ho bhai?

I am just trying to help you out yaar.

In response to your first question quoting me, I had a very flared up reply typed out as well, but I am imagining that you are only nervous discussing your situation. Bu

I am just telling you that Institute wants everyone to qualify as CA brother. You probably know that there are only 170,000 CAs in India as against the same if not bigger number passing from engineering colleges, B Schools every year! Just remember that 100 people have failed for every 2 people to become CA. The pass percentage may be doctored, but only by intention to keep up the quality of the candidate passing out. If ICAI fails to produce an adequate number, soon all our certification powers will be transferred to CWAs and Company secretaries. Institute wants everyone to qualify as CA brother

Regarding M Com, I think you want to go for employment only, cos of the weight you are assigning to qualification. Many senior members have cleared in 12th/17th sitting yaar… they are highly remunerated for their expertise, not qualifications. It is not book knowledge that is required from professionals.

OK, cross your heart and ask yourself if M.Com. is giving you more knowledge than CA? Its not a hurdle at all, but it is not necessary either bro…

Regarding ICAI’s punitive intentions, just google some words like council, meeting, form 112, ICAI, condonation. They are spelt out hazards. Go thru regulations also. They run a check on the qualifications you finally declare, with the qualification declared when joining articles, and see if form 112 is filed for everything in between.

Please listen to me. The decision should be finally yours only, not mine. If you are biting off more than you can chew, do one course at a time. Seriously, do one course only at a time. But y do u wanna go to college? Do it privately….. Why don’t you go for final classes yaar? Aren’t you interested in CA? Then what are you still doing?

Abhishek bhai, if we work sincerely the rewards will follow. Just file form 112 immediately.

nothing was mentioned in that letter..i think d institute itself is not sure about its rules...well..he has submitted 112 again..now lets see wht happen...waise he has already given CS executive exam...

Originally posted by : G.K..
	Dear Abhishek,   aakhir tumhari galti hain, khud maana, phir mujhpe kyon gussa le rahe ho bhai? I am just trying to help you out yaar.   In response to your first question quoting me, I had a very flared up reply typed out as well, but I am imagining that you are only nervous discussing your situation. Bu   I am just telling you that Institute wants everyone to qualify as CA brother. You probably know that there are only 170,000 CAs in India as against the same if not bigger number passing from engineering colleges, B Schools every year! Just remember that 100 people have failed for every 2 people to become CA. The pass percentage may be doctored, but only by intention to keep up the quality of the candidate passing out. If ICAI fails to produce an adequate number, soon all our certification powers will be transferred to CWAs and Company secretaries. Institute wants everyone to qualify as CA brother   Regarding M Com, I think you want to go for employment only, cos of the weight you are assigning to qualification. Many senior members have cleared in 12th/17th sitting yaar… they are highly remunerated for their expertise, not qualifications. It is not book knowledge that is required from professionals. OK, cross your heart and ask yourself if M.Com. is giving you more knowledge than CA? Its not a hurdle at all, but it is not necessary either bro… Regarding ICAI’s punitive intentions, just google some words like council, meeting, form 112, ICAI, condonation. They are spelt out hazards. Go thru regulations also. They run a check on the qualifications you finally declare, with the qualification declared when joining articles, and see if form 112 is filed for everything in between.   Please listen to me. The decision should be finally yours only, not mine. If you are biting off more than you can chew, do one course at a time. Seriously, do one course only at a time. But y do u wanna go to college? Do it privately….. Why don’t you go for final classes yaar? Aren’t you interested in CA? Then what are you still doing?   Abhishek bhai, if we work sincerely the rewards will follow. Just file form 112 immediately.

 First thing, maine koi galti nahi ki aur nahi maani. Secondly, maine gussa nahi kiya. I dont know tumhe aisa kyon laga.

Dont mind, but your stats. regarding no. of CAs and pass %age are irrelevant about, what I am talking.

Now, doing any other course with CA will only expand knowledge, not contract. And why you cant understand that if you are a CA then only there is no use of M.Com., otherwise degree alongwith knowledge speaks more than mere knowledge. RECOGNITION IS IMPORTANT AND THATS WHERE DEGREE COMES IN PLAY.

 NOW JUST CROSS YOUR HEART AND COMPARE TWO STUDENTS ONE WHO HAS A DEGREE AND OTHER WHO DONT HAVE A DEGREE BUT MAY BE EQUAL OR EVEN MORE KNOWLEDGE. NOW TELL WHO HAS BETTER OPPORTUNITIES.

Now asking for permission is I dont think would work at all yaar. cause 99.5% chances are, it would be denied. Moreover, I obviously want myself to be permitted for doing other courses. But, I want a better solution. Why dont ICAI just lift or atleast modify this rule. So, it would be for everyone's benefit???????

And also whats bad in having qualifications. If its useless, then why they have?

THESE STUPID RULES ARE WITHOUT LOGIC AND ARE A SIGN OF MERE DICTATORSHIP. SIMPLY READ MY FIRST POST AND SPECIALLY WHAT I HAVE ASKED FROM EC OF ICAI. AND THEN HONESTLY ANSWER. IS MY POINT WRONG ?????????

IF THEY CANT ASSURE US, THEY CANT DEPRIVE US TO MAKE OUR ASSURANCE AS WELL.

Abs,

I am sorry if i said anything wrong to u bro.. i am agreeing that some rules are not clever, or any help to students, but then wat to do? we have to comply with the rules to pass CA no... Leave all the logic of the rules, but we have to comply with them....??

Thats what we are signing and giving the ICAI when we join CA course that we wil comply wit the rules and regulations of ICAI made from time to time????

U just try to bring something to compliance with these rules.. reg my form 112, at least they have not said anything that they have rejected the application.. pls at least try to file form 112. Continuing any rebel feelings towards ICAI is not gonna do any good in present situation.. 

Pls buddy, i am saying with best intention, file your form 112 with proper covering letter and explnation..... and it wont be rejected. The people who say their form was rejected might have done something unknowingly,like not giving proof of previous course completion, or some condonation fees might have fallen short, or some petty reason may have been there......

But they tried filing form 112 at least, and u r not even trying???? You just seem to be on offensive mode brother.. after all its your education, its just a simple 2 page form, fill it up and send it yaar...

Do you want to risk your 3.5 years articleship and a carreer for a 2 page form?

 What have I got to gain and what have you got to lose by trying? I was just trying to help.

All the best, with best intentions....

hi... abhishek.. definitely i wud support u... lemme know wat u gona do