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Vat registration

CA Darshak Shah (Practicing CA) (1889 Points)

12 April 2012

The complication that I am facing is regarding VAT Registration..

One Unit manufacturing Plastic (Say X) has obtained TIN No..It is proprietory unit and now the person wants to start

another unit (Say Y) which is in the same industry i.e plastic.

Do new unit (Y) need to obtain TIN Number or the same number is enough?

Plz Note that

Proprietor is same+ Nature of business is same i.e plastic + same jurisdiction..

Only The NAME changes...

Plz help

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Sanjeev Rana (Tax Consultant) (36 Points)
Replied 12 April 2012

Mr. Shah

Its depends upon in which state you are going to start new business. Suppose you are having business at Ludhiana Punajb as proprietary firm and want to do same business in same state at Jalandhar Punjab with same constitution then the need of new registration does not arise at all. however if you want to change constitution of the business at new place then new registration will be required.even if you change the state from Punjab to some other state say Gujrat the new registration is required.

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Vinod Ram (C A) (165 Points)
Replied 12 April 2012

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manish sharma (ca final) (110 Points)
Replied 12 April 2012

Hello sir,

If both the firm name is different you must registered both the firm in vat deptartment.Nothing a problem if Prop.is same,same address,business is same.

with warm regard

manish sharma

CA Darshak Shah (Practicing CA) (1889 Points)
Replied 12 April 2012

I would like to thank all of you.

1 Mr Sanjeev Rana

Sir, Both unit are in Gujarat that to even in the same city and same locality as well.

Unit Name is different and constitution is same

2 Mr Vinod Ram

Thank You for the useful link.I have posted my query there. I would appriciate if you can represent your conclusion on the topic since you have experianced the same.

3 Mr Manish

I am not getting exact answer of yours.

If the same registration persist then please tell me about the additional compliances that i should make. Like any form etc.

-Darshak

Nooruddin Minsaria (Accounting ) (32 Points)
Replied 13 April 2012

1. want to continue with same VAT registration and same name in same state.

You need to ammend your existing VAT registration certificate by adding a new unit with your current VAT registration number.

2. want to start new unit with new registration number in same state.

Apply for new registration.

3. in other state

new registration as a branch.

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CA Darshak Shah (Practicing CA) (1889 Points)
Replied 13 April 2012

Mr Noorudin,

I want to start a new unit with new name and in same state and same proprietor..?

Existing registration is enough or not?

Nooruddin Minsaria (Accounting ) (32 Points)
Replied 13 April 2012

you need new registration of vat with your concern vat department as per your area of operations in new company name

CA Darshak Shah (Practicing CA) (1889 Points)
Replied 13 April 2012

Mr Noorudin,

Oh...Same proprietor and same business and same locality?

Only New Name...

Still New registration?

Am I right?

Nooruddin Minsaria (Accounting ) (32 Points)
Replied 13 April 2012

Yes new registration because it is considered as a new business and altogether new entity, and it needs to maintain different set of books of accounts. (i.e. 2 different businesses for one individual)

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Rashid Imam (Officer (Indirect taxation)) (296 Points)
Replied 14 April 2012

Mr. Shah,

If you will start the same business with same name, u only have to amend your VAT Registration certificate for additional place of business from the concerned dept, but in your case your are going to open an other business of place with diffrent name thats why u need to apply a new tin number and registration even the business or propriter is same.

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CA Darshak Shah (Practicing CA) (1889 Points)
Replied 14 April 2012

Well Thank You All..

Those who are of the opiniopn that only one registration is enough,

Kindly tell me The Forms/Formalities to ammend VAT Registration Certificate..

wazeer ahmed (Commercial Accountant M.Com) (243 Points)
Replied 14 April 2012

In this situation you can apply for the Branch Certificat

CA Darshak Shah (Practicing CA) (1889 Points)
Replied 14 April 2012

But the name is different still branch certificate can be obtained?

How?

Vinod Ram (C A) (165 Points)
Replied 17 April 2012

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