Query on Depreciation
Nitin Singhal (Gaining knowledge...) (320 Points)
28 February 2011Nitin Singhal (Gaining knowledge...) (320 Points)
28 February 2011
Nitin Singhal
(Gaining knowledge...)
(320 Points)
Replied 28 February 2011
u r absolute right that it should be 30 % as u r doing or using it in business ,but
now the decision u r telling its not relavent over here on that front u can tell
about the decision on cit v/s madan and co . mad ras high court
but , in the case cit v/d goodwill india ltd . delhi high court and soma finance and leasing company supm. court , the
verdict comes as :-
where it was held that the use to which the lessee puts the vehicle is not relevant for determining the rate of depreciation of the assessee , who is lessor . there fore , the lessor assessee will be eligible only for the normal rate of depriciation .
Nitin Singhal
(Gaining knowledge...)
(320 Points)
Replied 28 February 2011
RISHI RAJPOOT
(MANAGER A/C & FINANCE)
(22 Points)
Replied 28 February 2011
hi dears
can you provide me full procedure for filling of E-tds return. plz. help me it is very urgent.
thanks,
rajpootrishi @ gmail.com
first see on that issue atleast there are 10 decision and all are contradicoty to each other 2 times madras high court allowed the depriciation at the rate of 30 % as the end use of the vechical is taken in that decision , delhi high court and bombay tribunal had held end is not relavent
...if u go by this decision u can take the latest decision as a guideline , but when the sepicific deision by
SUP. court is pronounce then u need to take that in account , i dnt have a link to those said decision , u can find them in taxman , go to gogole search by case name u will find it ,.
merely bcause the lessor had leased it out to the lessee , higher deprication cannot be availed , all this veiws make the decision lead to that the lessor assessee will be eligible only for the normal rate of depreciation
Nitin Singhal
(Gaining knowledge...)
(320 Points)
Replied 01 March 2011
Nitin Singhal
(Gaining knowledge...)
(320 Points)
Replied 01 March 2011
Leave Everything:
Let’s go from Beginning: Give the depreciation treatment (i.e. eligibility to claim depreciation, Rate, income assessable under which head etc.) in the following cases:
Case 1: Mr. X owns a BUILDING and gives it on lease (which is Mr. X's business) to Mr. Y. Now, Mr. Y uses it for residential purposes. Give the depreciation treatment for Mr. X (i.e. eligibility to claim depreciation, Rate, income assessable under which head etc.).
Case 2: Mr. X owns a BUILDING and gives it on lease (which is NOT Mr. X's business) to Mr. Y. Now, Mr. Y uses it for residential purposes. Give the depreciation treatment for Mr. X (i.e. eligibility to claim depreciation, Rate, income assessable under which head etc.).
Case 3: Mr. X owns a BUILDING and gives it on lease (which is Mr. X's business) to Mr. Y. Now, Mr. Y uses it for commercial purposes. Give the depreciation treatment for Mr. X (i.e. eligibility to claim depreciation, Rate, income assessable under which head etc.).
Case 4: Mr. X owns a BUILDING and gives it on lease (which is NOT Mr. X's business) to Mr. Y. Now, Mr. Y uses it for commercial purposes. Give the depreciation treatment for Mr. X (i.e. eligibility to claim depreciation, Rate, income assessable under which head etc.).
Case 5: Mr. X owns a Machinery (or say Car i.e. any other asset other than building) and gives it on lease (which is Mr. X's business) to Mr. Y. Now, Mr. Y uses it for non-commercial purposes. Give the depreciation treatment for Mr. X (i.e. eligibility to claim depreciation, Rate, income assessable under which head etc.).
Case 6: Mr. X owns a Machinery (or say Car i.e. any other asset other than building) and gives it on lease (which is NOT Mr. X's business) to Mr. Y. Now, Mr. Y uses it for non-commercial purposes. Give the depreciation treatment for Mr. X (i.e. eligibility to claim depreciation, Rate, income assessable under which head etc.).
Case 7: Mr. X owns a Machinery (or say Car i.e. any other asset other than building) and gives it on lease (which is Mr. X's business) to Mr. Y. Now, Mr. Y uses it for commercial purposes. Give the depreciation treatment for Mr. X (i.e. eligibility to claim depreciation, Rate, income assessable under which head etc.).
Case 8: Mr. X owns a Machinery (or say Car i.e. any other asset other than building) and gives it on lease (which is NOT Mr. X's business) to Mr. Y. Now, Mr. Y uses it for commercial purposes. Give the depreciation treatment for Mr. X (i.e. eligibility to claim depreciation, Rate, income assessable under which head etc.).
(PLEASE MAKE REFERENCE TO APPLICABLE CASE LAWS, SECTIONS , RULES ETC. IF POSSIBLE)
1. x is eligible for deprication 5 % business and prof.
2.not eligible for dep, head : house property ,
3. x is eligible rate of dep. 5%, business and prof .
4 x is not eligible for dep , house property , standard decudtion of 30% should be claimed
5. x is eligible for dep. business and prof . 15%
6. x is eligible for dep. other source of income 15 %
7. x is eligible for dep . business and prof . 15%
8. x is eligible for dep . other source of income 15 %
2. Learned counsel for the Revenue has drawn our attention to (2003) 263 ITR (St) pp. 2 and 3. It is not disputed before us that the decision of this Court in the case of CIT v. Bansal Credits Ltd (2003) 259 ITR 69 (Del), which has been referred by the Tribunal, has been indirectly confirmed by the Supreme Court.
3. This appeal pertains to asst. yr. 1995-96. The question is with regard to allowance of depreciation at the rate of 40 per cent on leased vehicles. The question is no more res integra in view of the decision of this Court reported in CIT v. Bansal Credits Ltd. (supra) special leave petition against which has been dismissed by the Supreme Court as aforesaid. The assessed was party to those proceedings also.
4. In view of this, we do not entertain this appeal and the same is dismissed.
1. On an application under Section 256(1) of the Income-tax Act, 1961, the Tribunal has referred the following questions for our opinion :
"1. Whether, on the facts and in the circumstances of the case, the Tribunal was justified in law by upholding the order of the Commissioner of Income-tax (Appeals) holding that the appellant is entitled for depreciation at 30 per cent, and not at 40 per cent, as claimed by the assessee ?
2. Whether, on the facts and in the circumstances of the case, the Tribunal was justified in holding that leasing of vehicles on monthly rent to different concerns cannot be termed as used in the business of running on hire and accordingly Appendix I, item III(2)(ii) is not applicable and the appellant is entitled for general rate of depreciation of 30 per cent, as per Appendix I, Part III(IA) of the Depreciation Schedule ?
3. Whether, on the fads and in the circumstances of the case, the Tribunal was justified in observing that the assessee did not ply the vehicles on road and realise hire charges upon leasing the vehicles on monthly rent and as such the depreciation rate as per Appendix I, item III(2)(ii) is not applicable ?"
2. None appeared for the assessee though the matter was listed 3/4 Limes. Heard learned counsel for the Revenue.
3. The assessee-company is engaged in the business of leasing plant, machinery and vehicles which were purchased by it and given on lease on rent to various industries concerned. During the relevant previous year, the assessee-company leased out vehicles worth Rs. 49,30,572. On the said vehicles, the assessee claimed depreciation at the rate of 40 per cent, as provided in Part I, item IIIE(IA) of Appendix-I of the Depreciation Schedule to the Income-tax Rules. The claim of the assessee was allowed by the Assessing Officer while passing the original assessment order on December 19, 1989. Subsequently, the mistake was found that the assessee has not given the vehicles on hire but the vehicles were given on lease rent. When the assessee has not given the vehicles on hire, the depreciation was allowed on higher side in the original assessment and that was a mistake apparent on the record. Therefore, a notice under Section 154 was issued and the mistake was corrected by order under Section 154 of the Act on March 4, 1991. In appeal, the view taken by the Income tax Officer rectifying the mistake was upheld by the Commissioner of Income-tax (Appeals) as well as by the Tribunal.
4. None appeared on the date of hearing though the matter was listed 2/3 times at that time also none appeared for the assessee. The admitted facts are that the assessee has not given the vehicles in question on hire. The vehicles are rented out or leased out for some period on rent.
5. In Appendix I to the Rules, item D(9) of Part I motor buses and motor lorries other than those used in a business of running them on hire the depreciation rate is 30 per cent, and in item E(1A) provides the depreciation in case of motor buses, motor lorries and motor taxies used in a business of running them on hire, the rate of depreciation is specified as 40 per cent. When there are two different rates in two different types of cases the mistake is apparent, if the rate is not applied for which the assessee is entitled.
6. The findings of the Income-tax Officer, the Commissioner of Income-tax (Appeals) and the Tribunal are that the vehicles in question are not run by the assessee on hire. When those vehicles are not run by the assessee on hire; the depreciation rate is 30 per cent, specified in the Appendix annexed to the Income-tax Rules. Therefore, in our view, there is no infirmity in the view taken by the Tribunal confirming the order of the Income-tax Officer and the Commissioner of Income-tax (Appeals).
7. In the result, we answer all the three questions in the affirmative, that is, in favour of the Revenue and against the assessee.
8. The reference application is, accordingly, disposed of.
u can have one more refrence on this matter :-
Magma Leasing Ltd. vs Commissioner Of Income-Tax on 16/1/2003