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ICAI REMOVES CHOICE IN EXAMS FROM NOV 2009 ONWARDS

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vivek (student) (88 Points)
Replied 02 October 2009

Originally posted by :Nayan Dutta
" whatever it is we have to do it, so lets do it "

YUP BRO.. HOPE WE BOUNCE BACK


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I feel that there is no clarity in that notificaion what exactly ICAI wanted to tell us:


C.A. Sanjay Bhatia (CA) (496 Points)
Replied 02 October 2009

it is unfair because in Exams like Law ,we used to skip some chapters as it will be covered in choices,now the difficulty has increased.....


shivam (student) (112 Points)
Replied 02 October 2009

wow..!!!! it really seems to be gr8...like such..

as being a professional course... i think institute has taken a fair step...


DEEPAK (CA FINAL) (814 Points)
Replied 02 October 2009

it is unfair



CA Tushar Lakhanpal (CA) (416 Points)
Replied 03 October 2009

i dont think its fair...


Kishan Vashist (Senior Analyst) (63 Points)
Replied 03 October 2009

Any one have knowledge about.... options to choose final old course???

PS Prabhakar (Partner in a CA firm) (930 Points)
Replied 03 October 2009

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Guys, this is a letter I wrote to the President and his council colleagues on this issue. While the President, in my opinion, has either closed or no mind on this issue (as he has many things that are dear to his mind and others are so busy in the ensuing elections, it is highly doubtful whether they would even get time to be worried about such trivial issues. After all, stuidents, you dont have any vote yet!

Dear Mr President,

I am appalled to see the "important announcement"  in the Institute's website  regarding the Nov 2009 examination - about the Examination Committee having taken some important decisions in respect of (a) syllabus change and (b) pattern change.

I do not see how it is even possible for the ICAI to take such far reaching decisions regarding the examination which is slated just about amonth away, when the students are almost in the final phase of their preparations. How is it possible for the students to adapt to such changes, especially on the issue of every question being compulsory in nature?

Is the committee out of its mind? Or just because the committee thinks that after all they are dealing with CA students, who cannot organise themselves, like students pursuing other professional courses like medicine, engineering or law,  for any form of protest against such blatantly unilateral, legally untenable decisions taken with abject non-application of mind? What kind of temerity is this to announce it on Oct 1st for the Nov examination and brazenly adding that "Students may note that the first paragraph of this announcement is in addition to the announcement already published in the October, 2009 issue of the students’ newsletter – The Chartered Accountant Student".

No other professional educational institution, which runs predominantly on students' money would attempt to do something like this. And what a funny preamble? "CA course being a professional course, practical training is an essential part..." We didn't know this all these years and neither did the students! If giving 'practical training' any importance, why does not the ICAI think of introducing something like 'internal assessment' by the principals?

When such 'wisdom' has suddenly dawned on the council or the committee, as the case may be, I will ask you all only one question. Is any one of you prepared to take the examination once again even under the easier norms that were prevailing when all of you wrote the examinations?

My indignation on the committee's insensitivity is so much that I do not wish to make any appeals. Therefore I demand that such ridiculous, mindless changes be not done in the eleventh hour. If at all you want to make any changes, prepare the students well in advance and take the student community in to confidence and do them.

I hope correct wisdom prevails and the ICAI corrects its course, well in time.

Regards

Prabhakar


G Aditya (Article) (289 Points)
Replied 03 October 2009

take it as a challenge and start working,,,,come on guys.....


Sameer D Luthra (SERVICE) (69 Points)
Replied 03 October 2009

Is the change for Final-Old course too, as such students attempting CA Final under old course have last attempt this Nov? Where do we confirm this?



Aditya (CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT) (179 Points)
Replied 03 October 2009

IT IS A GOOD STEP FOR IMPROVING  THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION.  ALL PAPERS SHOULD BE PRACITICAL ORIENTED, BY THIS DUMMY ARTCILSHIP RATIO COME DOWN AND THE CA PROFESSION GET QUALITY PROFEESIONALS IN FUTURE


CA Mansi Daswani (working) (36 Points)
Replied 03 October 2009

is it applicable for ca final olf slyyabus students appearin in nov 2009 can some one plz tell

this is horribl how can they do such a thing one month ago


pratik (CA) (1186 Points)
Replied 03 October 2009

I think this annoucement should have come little early as the nov exams are fast approaching


Miket Shashikant Bahuva (Service) (22 Points)
Replied 03 October 2009

 

I refer to Important Announcement - November 2009 Examination - (30-09-2009) published on ICAI Website on 30th September, 2009. The news inter alia speaks about having all the questions in the CA PCE / IPCC and Final exams being compulsory.
I do agree with the views of the Examination Committee that “CA course being a professional course, practical training is an essential part of it and accordingly all papers of Professional Competence Examination as well as Final should be practical oriented questions as also of the level of knowledge should be expert and not working knowledge”.
Though the move by the Examination Committee is a welcome move but it’s an untimely and arbitrary one. I say this statement on following grounds.
1.       Its well known fact that student appearing for final exams generally take about 120 days leave (equivalent to 4 months) and student appearing in PCE / IPCC generally takes examination leave of about 90 days (equivalent to 3 months) as allowed during the articleship period. The planning for the studies starts even before the examination leave starts. Suggested Answers issued by ICAI serves as a guide to analyze past trend and paper pattern of the subject. Since past few years, apart from Accounts and Taxation Paper (Or may be Costing as well), all the papers were carrying one or two optional questions. And the trend also suggested that one could leave a chapter or two in option in each subject purely because of setting of question in that way over the past few years. Students must have planned their studies on the basis of above analysis. An Important Announcement like this a month prior to exam would definitely put their planning for a toss…
 
2.      The reason I say it is arbitrary and untimely is the fact that students were not consulted not were the views obtained and the decision is literally dumped on them at a time when every one is going thru revision stage. The Important Announcement was published on the internet and might be published in the October newsletter. I wonder how many student have net access at their home specially students located in the remote areas of country. The newsletter will usually reach student by mid October. I really feel pity for those students who will get a shocker in the midst of October.
It would have been really appreciated if a prior intimation would have been given to the students. Still, we, as a student, are still undeterred by this and promise to give our more than 100% required by the exams… CA Exams…


sumit (Industrial Trainee at EY)   (366 Points)
Replied 03 October 2009

Originally posted by :G Aditya
" take it as a challenge and start working,,,,come on guys..... "

i agree



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