Kiran Nair (-) (86 Points)
24 January 2011
Do we need to state the conditions suggested, I mean 4 example Sec. 10(12) RPF, or Sec 10(13) etc, the same as suggested in texts like Padhuka, Manoharan Sir text or Study Material or can we write it in our on sentences....... with core remaining d same ????
I'm not able remember all this stuffs...... Or do I need to by heart all these ????? It's practically impossible.....
Tejas
(M.Com CA CS CFA (US) Prog. Grad..)
(354 Points)
Replied 24 January 2011
Boss CA is 99% ratta maaro and 1% intelligence so no option but to learn everything...
FATEMA
(CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT)
(719 Points)
Replied 24 January 2011
Dear Kiran,
It is not possible to remember everythng word by word.However, if you practice well,you will automatically get used to the "income tax" language.One word here and there will do.
Manmohan ACA, CS
(Chartered Accountant )
(14243 Points)
Replied 24 January 2011
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Boss CA is 99% ratta maaro and 1% intelligence so no option but to learn everything... |
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I completely disagree, its 80% understand and 20% ratta
FATEMA
(CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT)
(719 Points)
Replied 24 January 2011
It is all understanding.take costing for example...even if u dont remember the formulae, u can derive them and solve the problem if your basics are clear.
Dont know what makes tejas say that it is 99% ratta
M .K. Jha
(CA Final)
(484 Points)
Replied 24 January 2011
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U really dont have to do ratta in CA...Its a misconception...U really dont have to write word to word....U can write in ur words ..but make sure u write the core....It will do. |
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Yes Must to clear concept only rattafication is not possiible for preparation of exams of CA......
Clear all concept in my mind it will help more than rattafication in exams and also in real life.. as practice...
Tejas
(M.Com CA CS CFA (US) Prog. Grad..)
(354 Points)
Replied 24 January 2011
by ratta i did not mean word by word learning... priyam is right... bt then there are certain examiners who do not bother to find out the meaning, they merely see the important words matching in the suggested ans and the answer sheeta nd give marks
but except for accounts costing and FM, all 5 others subjects ie DT IDT law audit and isca are meant to be learnt. there cannot be any understanding in those subjects... that forms about 62% of ca final
if there is a law u ve to learn it and follow it, nothin to understand in it.
if anyone has done audit in a big4 then its ok but otherwise the latest SAs and audit procedures are bouncer for anyone whos done dummy or even in small firm. so again ve to learn there
isca i dont need to say anything. its complete bullsh*t. there yes u ve to do total ratta word by word. the more u stick to module language the more ul score.
also in last attempt there was 30 marks of pure theory in costing which was also to be learnt. they asked theory on OR topics also where usually sums are asked
also OR is such an outdated topic. everything is done by computers today. so taht is another topic where ppl ve to learn the steps coz even if u try to understand the OR methods, there is no time in the exam to apply ur mind. as soon as u get the paper, start solvin. no time to stop and think.
plus Acc Stds, the disclosure part and presentation part has to be learnt.
in FM, there is zero learning and 110% application and understanding, but the way icai has prepared the module, and the way they put the exam questions, hardly any students feel the need to understand the economics behind topics such as forex or derivatives. they merely learn rules and apply them to sums in exams and pass. therefore more learning comes in
thats why i said learning is important. maybe my proportion was wrong. but definitely, ca final is atleast 70-75 learning and 25-30 understanding... im nt supporting learning but its a fact taht the way icai has framed its syllabus and exam papers, ppl with more memory clear better than ppl with intelligence.
if anyone really wants to see how non ratta papers are set, please see CFA USA papers. there they dont expect u to learn a single formulae...everythin is conceptual.
yes it will lead to problems in ur future career if u jus learn bt to pass the exam it is important
CA Saba Naaz
(Chartered Accountant)
(8487 Points)
Replied 24 January 2011
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Dear Kiran, It is not possible to remember everything word by word.However, if you practice well,you will automatically get used to the "income tax" language. |
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i totally agree....... its correct
kamala
(article clerk)
(33 Points)
Replied 24 January 2011
Is subject wise exemption can be carried forward to new syllabus
CA MAULIK
(C.A)
(937 Points)
Replied 25 January 2011
No word to word writing is possible...bt conceptually u must b right.and specific..also refer suggested ans pattern...as suggested by ICAI..............goodluck........
Hemant
(AM - IA/SOX)
(78 Points)
Replied 25 January 2011
Dear,
I would suggest two things:
a) no need to ratta types things....make sure u understand the logic behind the preseumptions and assumptions.....understand the logic....
b) simple things just go through with the sec number and provisions one in 3 days and in one month u will be master of the concept......
Hope this helps:
Best of Luck!
Thanks
Hemant
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