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Discussion,.CPT or PE-1?? your views

Bharath (C.A,C.S) (3983 Points)

14 June 2011

HELLO FRIENDS THIS IS A SMALL DISCUSSION IN ORDER TO OBTAIN UR VIEWS REGARDING WHETHER YOU THINK CPT IS BENEFECIAL OR PE-1 WILL BE BENEFICIAL LOOKING AT THE PRESENT TREND,..

AFTER THE INTRODUCTION OF CPT THERE HAS BEEN A RADICAL GROWTH IN THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS ENROLLING FOR CA AND ALSO THE NUMBER OF EDUCATIONAL INSTITUIONS HAVE SPRUNG UP LIKE MUSHROOMS IN THE RAINY SEASON,.THEY ARE ALMOST FOUND EVERYWHERE THESE DAYS,...

DO YOU THINK THAT WILL HAVE ANY EFFECT ON THE REPUTATION OF C.A COURSE,...?

SO PLZ EXPRESS UR OPINION ON THIS ISSUE,....

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Bharath (C.A,C.S) (3983 Points)
Replied 14 June 2011

IN MY OPINION CPT HAS MADE A GOOOD AWARENESS REGARDING THE CA PROFESSION TO ALMOST EVERY STUDENT,..

BUT AT THE SAME TIME SOMEWHERE OR THE OTHER I FEEL C.A HAS LOST ITS GLORY A BIT AFTER INTRODUCTION OF CPT,....

PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE SAY THAT WE ARE STUDYING CA. PEOPLE JUST USED TO GIVE A "WOW" EXPRESSION,..

BUT NOWADAYS EVERWHERE I JUST HEAR THE SAME ECHO"CPT CPT CPT CPT",.IT HAS BECOME LIKE LKG AND UKG,...

ALSO EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS HAVE STARTED PUBLISHING CPT RANKS AND CLAIMING CA AS A VERY VERY EASY COURSE,..NOW THAT IS THE POINT WHERE I FEEL C.A CPT HAS CAUSED AN ADVERSE EFECT TO THE CA PROFESSION,...IN BUSES ,AUTO RIKSHAWAS,LOCAL CHANNELS ,HOARDINGS EVERYWHERE ONLY TERM I SEE IS "CPT"

I ALSO HOPE THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE AGAIN ICAI WILL SURELY THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND MAKE A WISE DECISION,...

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Sasanka Bhalaki (Student) (1935 Points)
Replied 14 June 2011

Nice discussion Bharath..CPT has provided lot of students into CA..but it is not at all effective..i agree only PE-1 which really tests the knoledge of the student who are capable to do CA.

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VIJAYKUMAR (CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT) (203 Points)
Replied 14 June 2011

CPT is not in equal quality that of PE-I

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CA ADITYA SHARMA (CA IN PRACTICE ) (16719 Points)
Replied 14 June 2011

PE - 1 WAS VERY GOOD COMPARED TO CPT

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Vikas Gupta (CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT) (16295 Points)
Replied 14 June 2011

Originally posted by : Sasanka Bhalaki
	Nice discussion Bharath..CPT has provided lot of students into CA..but it is not at all effective..i agree only PE-1 which really tests the knoledge of the student who are capable to do CA.

Agree with this

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CPT should be made tougher so that only deserving students get into CA course..bcoz IPCC nd Final is way way tougher than CPT

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CA ADITYA SHARMA (CA IN PRACTICE ) (16719 Points)
Replied 15 June 2011

pe- 1 was giving the good idea of this course to the students. but cpt is failed in this regard

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Namrata (Spirutial Being) (1841 Points)
Replied 15 June 2011

I had given CPT the only thing i can say is CPT is not that easy . In PE 1 students were byhearting the answers but in CPT they have to apply there knowledge for answereing

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CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKHECHA (Practising CA at Surat) (26263 Points)
Replied 15 June 2011

CPT was introduced by ICAI to catch the students at an early stage.

Previously Management Courses were understood much better than CA,CS and ICWA just because of their marketing strategy.

Then ICAI realized that their students and members lack only in Communication.

Hence it intrdouced compulsorily GMCS.

Now situations are different.

Except renowned MBA institutes; others MBA institutions are not able to manage (get) students !

These institutions are unable to pursuade students which they could before. At the time of global recession in 2008, more executors were required than the managers.

Qualified CAs, CSs, and CWAs can execute the work with proper management also.

CPT is to test the analytical skills of the students.

In 2010, one student who scored IInd Rank in Gujarat in XII, could get only 65% in CPT. At the initial level of counselling, I recommend her to go for CS only because she was lacking in analytical skills.

Till XII, questions papers cover book material only. Hence who do labour more, can score more.

This strategy is not successful in CPT.

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CA Ravi Khandelwal (Business) (752 Points)
Replied 15 June 2011

Originally posted by : Namrata
	I had given CPT the only thing i can say is CPT is not that easy . In PE 1 students were byhearting the answers but in CPT they have to apply there knowledge for answereing

In PE 1 students were byhearting the answers

I dont agree with this statement.

Although CPT is not that much easy but it is easy as compared to PE1.

CPT was introduced just to increase number of students. And ICAI succeded in their motive and has got huge increase in their funds.

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Bharath (C.A,C.S) (3983 Points)
Replied 15 June 2011

Originally posted by : CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKHECHA
	CPT was introduced by ICAI to catch the students at an early stage. . Previously Management Courses were understood much better than CA,CS and ICWA just because of their marketing strategy. . Then ICAI realized that their students and members lack only in Communication. . Hence it intrdouced compulsorily GMCS. . Now situations are different. . Except renowned MBA institutes; others MBA institutions are not able to manage (get) students ! . These institutions are unable to pursuade students which they could before. At the time of global recession in 2008, more executors were required than the managers. . Qualified CAs, CSs, and CWAs can execute the work with proper management also. . CPT is to test the analytical skills of the students. . In 2010, one student who scored IInd Rank in Gujarat in XII, could get only 65% in CPT. At the initial level of counselling, I recommend her to go for CS only because she was lacking in analytical skills. . Till XII, questions papers cover book material only. Hence who do labour more, can score more. . This strategy is not successful in CPT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR UR VALUABLE COMMENTS SIR,...

ICAI WILL SURELY LOOK OVER THIS ISSUE IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND MAKE SUITABLE CHANGES IN MY OPINION,...

krina (student) (1263 Points)
Replied 15 June 2011

Agree with u Bharath ..

CPT has realy become very common with students

& CA has also LOST it's CHARM which it had Previously had also with regards to PASSING PERCENTAGE ....

ANY TIME " PE -1 " IS BETTER ...

Vijay (Adamo Studio) (2112 Points)
Replied 15 June 2011

Agree with sir in this regard bcoz i've seen students getting 80-90% in GSEB & failing in CPT.

CPT tests the analytical and the conceptual part.

I dont know much about PE1 but still CPT cant be said as a useless thing.

Yes improvments can be made in the QA part and the drafting of the papers.

Originally posted by : CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKHECHA
	CPT was introduced by ICAI to catch the students at an early stage. . Previously Management Courses were understood much better than CA,CS and ICWA just because of their marketing strategy. . Then ICAI realized that their students and members lack only in Communication. . Hence it intrdouced compulsorily GMCS. . Now situations are different. . Except renowned MBA institutes; others MBA institutions are not able to manage (get) students ! . These institutions are unable to pursuade students which they could before. At the time of global recession in 2008, more executors were required than the managers. . Qualified CAs, CSs, and CWAs can execute the work with proper management also. . CPT is to test the analytical skills of the students. . In 2010, one student who scored IInd Rank in Gujarat in XII, could get only 65% in CPT. At the initial level of counselling, I recommend her to go for CS only because she was lacking in analytical skills. . Till XII, questions papers cover book material only. Hence who do labour more, can score more. . This strategy is not successful in CPT.