Leaving ca [8th attempt still could not passed]

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RATAN LAL PAGARIA (Retired from Aditya Birla Group ( Ultra Tech Cement))   (27 Points)
Replied 23 July 2012

Dear Shri Karan,

 

Do Not Loose Your Self.  One Day You Become CA. Try Again  & Prove Your  Abitily.

In My case  I stiil Try At the Age of  54.  & Hope  I will Qualify Shortly.

All the best & good Luck.

 

Ratan Lal Pagaria

Mob.098870 97335

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CA Ghanshyam Joshi (CA, Dip IFR (ACCA UK)) (3229 Points)
Replied 24 July 2012

"There is only one way to succeed in anything, and that is to give it everything." - Vince Lombardi


CA.Nikhil Moharana (CA in Service) (27 Points)
Replied 24 July 2012

@ Karan: "Winners never quit"

We all have gone thru similar kind of pain like you and finally it was final; we cleared CA and we are in good places. No one can say that CAs dont earn good money. All your pain will finally pay off. Dont loose heart and keep hitting the ball.

And you know, never ever listen to facts like there is a % that ICAI always tries to maintain. It is foolish to think that way.

Sit calm, disconnect from the world and internet too and do meditation. Dont try to find consolation somewhere else; Peace is right inside you. If possible go for a brisk walk in the morning. These were the advice of my senior when I was in similar situation.

Start everything afresh. Your only friends are books now. Leave that I know kind of attitude. Cover everything and dont be selective.

Write one at a time if your time does not permit. You will succeed. Success is just a step further.

Jai Hind. Jai ICAI.


CA Ghanshyam Joshi (CA, Dip IFR (ACCA UK)) (3229 Points)
Replied 25 July 2012

"Success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success. If you love what you are doing, you will be successful." - Albert Schweitzer


Varshit Shah (Self Employed) (676 Points)
Replied 26 July 2012

Originally posted by : RATAN LAL PAGARIA

Dear Shri Karan,

 

Do Not Loose Your Self.  One Day You Become CA. Try Again  & Prove Your  Abitily.

In My case  I stiil Try At the Age of  54.  & Hope  I will Qualify Shortly.

All the best & good Luck.

 

Ratan Lal Pagaria

Mob.098870 97335

 

I salute you sir......... Thanks a lot for sharing your experience.



CA RAHUL AGRAWAL (Assistant Manager-Service Tax)   (1733 Points)
Replied 26 July 2012

 Hey Friend Karan..

Your Query is Very Right Firend...

Reading the same books for each and every time doesnt give that much excitement...

but we go with this "KARNA TOH PADEGA"

So agar karna hi hai toh why with demotivated heart...

Take it as  a god's opportunity...

Never leave ur CA FINAL BUDDY...

The day we get registered with ICAI the "SACRIFICE and STRUGGLING" Life gets started...

SO Dont Ever think of leaving the Course...

I would like to Suggest go For One to One Group..:)

All the Very Best...

Best Regards,

Jai Shree Shyam...

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CA Ghanshyam Joshi (CA, Dip IFR (ACCA UK)) (3229 Points)
Replied 27 July 2012

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

 

"Every evening, write down the six most important things that you must do the next day. Then while you sleep your subconscious mind will work on the best ways for you to accomplish them. Your next day will go much more smoothly." - Tom Hopkins

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Hypermatri0765 (B.com pass) (24 Points)
Replied 27 July 2012

hello bro every told about positive thinking and approach 

but i donnt think u have any positive approach any more

but please dont feel sad i have a book which will help u a lot

(the power of positive thinking )aur hindi mein nam hai"sakaratmak soach ki shakti"

isko apne pass hamesha rakho aur padho

my guaretee u will pass any exam of life

aur attemps mat gino ok

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ACMA M.Abdul Khaliq (CMA) (214 Points)
Replied 03 August 2012

HAVE U NOTICED U HAVE PASSED IN ALL PAPERS IN MAY 12 ATTEMPT GRP 1  comparing to u r last 7 attempts

 


CA Ghanshyam Joshi (CA, Dip IFR (ACCA UK)) (3229 Points)
Replied 14 August 2012

If you keep doing what you have been doing, you will keep getting what you have gotten.

 

The most difficult thing about changing a habit is unlearning what is not working and learning positive habits.



CA Ghanshyam Joshi (CA, Dip IFR (ACCA UK)) (3229 Points)
Replied 14 August 2012

Dear Karan,

Hoping that you have came out of disappointment by the time now. Please find below analysis of your marks, which may help you -

 

a critical analysis of your past marks with some suggestions -          
following are the marks of my last 8 attempts: ( Karan )
   
Subject Nov-08 Jun-09 Nov-09 May-10 Nov-10 May-11 Nov-11 May-12   Maximum
A/c 44 31 42 45  28 53 49 45   53
SFM 18 53 39 38 29 37 49 41   53
Auditing 17 40 34 ~A~ 22 35 35 43   43
Law 40 50 49 ~A~ 35 53 56 48   56
Total 119 174 164 83 114 178 189 177   205
                     
Costing 36 27 33 35 34 36 46 24   46
ISCA 42 55 57 49 20 45 53 40   57
DT 33 24 24 35 15 53 24 26   53
IDT 28 31 29 43 15 47 32 47   47
Total 139 137 143 162 84 181 155 137   203
                     
GT 258 311 307 245 198 359 344 314   408
Nov' 10 attempt - not prepared for exam, May 10 first Group - Not prepared for Exam    
A/c - Good understanding - improve on presentation and try to cover the full paper to get exemption
  most of the time managed to get over 45 only 1 time more than 50
SFM Improve the conceptual understanding, solve the problems from Practice Manual & Past Exam
Auditing Needs lot of improvement, develop fast reading habit, writing speed and presentation matters more
  check on the grammar, Para/sentence formation etc.
Law Good strength - can try for getting exemption marks with a little more efforts, check your writing
  speed, if required take efforts to increase speed
                     
Costing Read the ICAI study material in depth at least once for in-depth understanding
  conceptual understanding is very much required to get exemption
  OR is numerical - can get full marks in that by practicing solving past exam question
  if possible go for a good coaching
ISCA Good command on this paper, can get exemption marks with little improvements    
                     
DT & IDT needs lot of improvement, if possible go for a good coaching class      
                     
Can Get exemption in Law and ISCA, Do these two subjects very good in this attempt and secure    
exemption in these subjects with aiming at least 70 marks, the extra marks will help in next attempt 
                     
if you consider the maximum marks achieved by you, you can get through in Both groups    

 


nishad goliwadekar (77 Points)
Replied 18 January 2018

Dear Karan, I'm very late in this conversation. But did you make it?

Ganesh Vaideeswaran (Director Grey Matter Academics Pvt. Ltd)   (1291 Points)
Replied 21 February 2018

Options  for  CA  failure  students

 

The  term  CA  failed  students  is  too generic  to  comment.  It could fall in any of the following categories  :

  1. A  student  who  has  failed  in  his  IPCC  a couple of times
  2. A  student  who  has  failed  in  his  IPCC  more  than  4 times
  3. A  student  who  has  failed  in  his  CA  Final  a couple of times
  4. A  student  who  has  failed  in  his  CA  Final  more  than  4 times 

 

The  reason  for  classifying  as  above  is  if  a  student  has  failed  either  in  his  IPCC  or  CA  Final  just  a  couple  of  times,  there  is  no  real  reason  for  him  to  panic  or  feel  frustrated  as  70%  of  the  students  fall  under  this  category.   With  the  results  of  these  exams  being  as  mean  as  it  is,  this  is  bound  to  happen.  However  if the  student  has  not  been  able  to  clear  the  exams  (not even a group  to  give  him some  comfort)  more  than  4 times  then  one  has  to  look  at  viable  alternatives.   Since the action plan for categories 1 and 3 are similar, am combining the same to avoid repetition. 

 

IPCC / CA Final  failed  a  couple  of  times

The student has to do the following in such a case :

  1. Get his answer paper copies from the ICAI and get the same reviewed by a qualified person.
  2. He needs to identify a mentor who should be able to identify his weak areas and guide him on how to go about his preparations with special focus on his weak areas. 
  3. He has to write multiple mock tests to ensure that the corrective action planned has been implemented.  For this purpose, he has to get his answer sheets evaluated by a qualified person. 

Once a student does the above, the probability of his passing the exams gets much better. 

 

IPCC attempted more than 4 times

If a student has religiously followed what has been suggested above for students who have not been successful in their IPCC for a couple of times but still has not been able to achieve the desired results for more than 4 times, then it is time to think of Plan B.  It is to be clearly understood having a Plan B is not a reflection of a student’s incapability but rather an assertion of his understanding the ground reality and taking appropriate corrective action for his success.  There are innumerable cases where students have done this and been very successful in  their career and life.   After all its not for nothing did Sir Winston Churchill state “Success is  nothing but going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm. “

 

A student who falls in this category must have completed his B.Com by this time on the presumption that he was pursuing the same along with his preparations for his IPCC.  Thus he must have spent at least 3 years by this time on CA (including CPT) and hence needs some immediate dose of confidence to ensure that his Self Esteem stays put.   The need of the hour here is some short term Certification Courses that does not exceed 12 months duration but at the same time gives him the shot in the arm to kick start his career meaningfully.   The CMA from the US and the CIA from the US are two programs that immediately come to my mind.  These are short term programs (a candidate can expect to complete the same in less than a year if he is committed) and enjoys global recognition.  With many MNCs setting up shop in India these courses are picking up in demand and is expected to soon become well sought after.   With  the  focus  on  Application, Analysis and Evaluation more than mere Remembering and Understanding, these courses precisely meets the needs of the industry today in the global scenario. 

 

Final attempted more than 4 times

Similar to IPCC, Plan B becomes essential for students in this category also.  In addition to the CMA and  the CIA programs detailed above, the Certified Public Accountant (CPA) of the USA also becomes a very viable option for a student who has cleared both the Groups of his IPCC but not able to clear his CA Final.   Again with just 4 papers to be completed,  a committed student can complete this program in 6-12 months time frame.   With the flexibility to write the exams paper by paper (similar to the CMA & CIA) this program gives is a real boon for students wanting to earn a global certification in finance and accounting. 

 

Annexure gives a summary and comparison of the CMA, CIA & CPA for easier understanding. 

 

Annexure

 

Salient Features of the CMA, CIA and the CPA of the US

         

S.No.

Data Points

CMA

CIA

CPA

1

Certification

Certified Management Accountant

Certified Internal Auditor

Certified Public Accountant

2

Governing Body

Institute of Management Accountants, USA

Institute of Internal Auditors, USA

Institute of the Certified Public Accountants of the USA

3

No. of Papers

2

3

4

4

Exam Format

1)  Online
2)  75% Objective & 25% Descripttive questions

1)  Online
2)  100% objective questions

1) Online
2) Objective, Task Based Simulation & Descripttive

5

Paper Descripttion

1) Financial Planning, Performance & Control
2) Financial Decision Making

1) Internal Audit Basics
2) Internal Audit Practice
3) Internal Audit Knowledge Elements

1) Auditing
2) Financial Accounting & Reporting (FAR)
3) Regulation
4) Business Environment & Concepts (BEC)

6

Questions Type

1) 100 MCQs in 3 hours - 75% weightage
2) 2 Essay Questions in 1 hour - 25% weightage

1) IA Basics - 125 MCQs in 2 hours & 30 mins
2) IA Practice - 100 MCQs in 2 hours
3) IA Knowledge Elements - 100 MCQs in 2 hours

1) Except BEC all Papers - 50% MCQs & 50% TBS
2) BEC - MCQs 50%, TBS 35% and  Written Communication - 15%

7

Passing Score

Scaled score of 360 out of 500 with a minimum of 50% score in Objective format. 

Scaled score of 600 out of 750.  Actual scores of passing students not declared since all are considered equal once passed. 

Scaled Score of 75 in each paper. 

8

Exam Centers

Multiple Centers in India

Multiple Centers in India

UAE, Kuwait, Baharain, Lebanon and the US only

9

Frequency of Exams

Almost throughout the year in Pearson Prometric Centers across the globe.

6 months in a year - January, February, May, June, September and October.

Almost 280 days in a year.

10

Eligibility

Can take up the exams before Graduation but for certification the student must be a graduate. 

Can take up the exams before Graduation but for certification the student must be a graduate. 

Varies from State to State.  Pl. consult an Expert for this.

 

For further information, reach us at <info @ greymatteracademics.com>


Shobhit Jain (CA) (4896 Points)
Replied 27 April 2019

Hi everyone, I am engaged in guiding CA students and had personally guided more than 100 students till date,in case you need any help you can reach out to me @   jainshobhit1996 @ gmail.com



Shobhit Jain (CA) (4896 Points)
Replied 27 April 2019

Hi everyone, I am engaged in guiding CA students and had personally guided more than 100 students till date,in case you need any help you can reach out to me @   jainshobhit1996 @ gmail.com



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