@ rahul bro you win i lose dear arey yaar as an HR writing is my hobby ab ussey mat rok mujhe i write a lot in blogs dear and for your answer they really did make a mistake in hiring me haha now happy enjoy and study well i hope we will meet soon i pray we meet soon.

@ priya apart from studies you have to groom your several others aspects such as like personality, behaviour, communication skills very much required for a CA to present himself at the times when required and also do perfrom your SWOT analysis you wiil get to know your strengths which you can capitalise on for example if your are good at english you may be good at drafting thats a plus point in your CA. if you can speak well you will be able to address yourself better in interviews and infront various senior officials for an example again if you have been asked a question what is audit trail you know the answer but you dont know whats the best way to convery your answer then you might lose an option to score out there in an interview because conveying your answer in best possible way thats is what is required to grab success in interview and also they way you sit in interviews, the way you shake hands, the way you address your seniors on very first day of your job all gets noticed because you are still in probation at that time, every action you perform,every words you speak defines your future in the organisation and also computer skills i mean very few persons new how to use the MS office efficiently and when it comes to CA you are in a bigger problem because you have to directly deal with a SAP software(ERP) and they are so tough to understand and grasp so it takes time to grasp those things so instead waisting your whole time in training just learning only those softwares

you miss lot of other things to learn out there what i a meant to say that every company who is paying 9 L requires a person who is already brushed and polished upto a certain extent 70-80% so that companies dont have to incur anymore huge amount on their training and development skills as such because as tejas said that accounting is unproductive work its true but its most important and vital part of the organisation without accounting you cannot plan and ascertain future events.so it is indeed vital but not as vital as other productive works like marketing and sales etc

so they want ready to use material today from CA institute rather a raw one.so start brushing up your skills and keep on motivating yourself that even 9 L is smaller in front of me i have capabilities to achieve much much more AS a CA i dont think that you all should get 9 L price tag because you all are capable individuals with tremendous knowledge and talent with that you can conquer any organisation the only thing is to improve yourself daily to be a new professional daily tckr keep rocking

originall posted by BALU A HELPING HAND - /forum/group-discussion-some-crucial-gd-tips-25293.asp

Hope the dream comes true soon

I read all posts here

I agree with mukul but at the same time i will say priya was also right to some extent.

We lack in communication skills and this is the major problem a CA faces in its life. It is

Because he has been studying practical subjects. A 2-3 months training can teach these skills easily but the knowledge a CA possesses cannot be learn in such shorter period, it takes so much time to be that knowledgelable person. A auditor much have knowledge of all areas i.e accounting, taxation, laws. So you cannot compare a CA & a MBA. because they are two different qualifications and they differ in their work.

MBAs have lost their reputation because you can find everyone is doing MBA and there is no single institute to control the result of the MBAs unlike ICAI. We hold reputation because we are less in numbers and this is not the case with MBAs. It requires HARD WORK to be a CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT unlike CS AND MBA where there is no such low result percentage. Anyway i was giving my suggestions and i dont want to fight here. Sorry if i m wrong somewhere.

And YES this is the great move by the ICAI we should atleast get that package.

undergoing GMCS currently n whats more it is headed by an HR :) He said he is gonna take care of everything a CA lacks(including forementioned lacunas) and himself is in need of professionals for his company so he is groom us real good :) 

hope to gel in with the corporate world after GMCS!

Hope this will happen..

Originally posted by : sumit sehrawat
	I read all posts here I agree with mukul but at the same time i will say priya was also right to some extent. We lack in communication skills and this is the major problem a CA faces in its life. It is Because he has been studying practical subjects. A 2-3 months training can teach these skills easily but the knowledge a CA possesses cannot be learn in such shorter period, it takes so much time to be that knowledgelable person. A auditor much have knowledge of all areas i.e accounting, taxation, laws. So you cannot compare a CA & a MBA. because they are two different qualifications and they differ in their work. MBAs have lost their reputation because you can find everyone is doing MBA and there is no single institute to control the result of the MBAs unlike ICAI. We hold reputation because we are less in numbers and this is not the case with MBAs. It requires HARD WORK to be a CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT unlike CS AND MBA where there is no such low result percentage. Anyway i was giving my suggestions and i dont want to fight here. Sorry if i m wrong somewhere. And YES this is the great move by the ICAI we should atleast get that package.

....so ur admitting urself that value of CA is due to thier  lower number and not because of their quality or knowledge..This is very much right...we all know, ICAI is puposefully failing students to reduce the overall resut..a passed CA must look into the cries of the purposefully failed one and should fight against this crueltyt of ICAI..

please dont beleive that lower result done by ICAI is right.

though there are lakhs of advocates there are persons getting even 1 lak per hour in courts....and in laks of MBA's  there are persons getting high salary...the harworker and the talented persons always awarded well.

even me a CA final student.I ageee that "just because we HAVE THE WORDS CA BEFORE US DOES NOT MEANS WE ARE SOMEONE GREAT..just relax saying urself u r lucky coz u didnt fall in the ICAI failing list"....we all know in many subjects we study uncessesary things which not even anywhere happening in the practical world like...

many topics from the information systen control and audit.

in auditing we all know many things are just blah... blah..

eg for just putting a tick in the voucher'..we all know from our training that 4-5 things to be verified.but they will write it in books as it  a BIGGGG thing and and it will run to 10-12 pages!!!

in other sublect also most of the areas are not practical....

so i beleive  the practically talented ones only should  get good salary..

Sorry to disappoint you Priya but GMCS is purely for having fun and making new contacts and friends (i.e. networking). If in 15 days we could learn seven new skills, then by now everyone would be super talented!

GMCS is a desperate attempt by ICAI to bridge the gap between CAs and MBAs in terms of presentation and communication skills which is too inadequate.

@ raj I can assure you there is NOTHING blah blah in the audit subject. Every single paragraph and word has intense application in the audit process.

@ Raj you are quite right. ICAI and the CA exam needs a major revamping. There are a lot of things which are not right about the CA course and they need to be studied into and worked out. But I dont expect anything to happen like it has never happened in the past.

But we may not attract many companies towards campus

It's an Appreciable Move by the President,necessary & justful for C.A. Students,i have also seen that some of the Freshers getting low salary Packages.if it happens it will distinguish the quality of study,work,Knowledge that a C.A posseses & others.It should be our status to get a minimum good salary for which a C.A. is entitled.

Originally posted by : Tejas
	Sorry to disappoint you Priya but GMCS is purely for having fun and making new contacts and friends (i.e. networking). If in 15 days we could learn seven new skills, then by now everyone would be super talented! GMCS is a desperate attempt by ICAI to bridge the gap between CAs and MBAs in terms of presentation and communication skills which is too inadequate.

arrey nahi yaar sir is an HR of a multinational and i asked him whether i should do the GMPAP course(gen, mgmt. prog. for account prof.) of IIM calcutta, he replied i will cover every aspect you wont be needing that course and so far it is turning out to be more than just management  and also of personality development class!

it is helping...just its upto the person taking those class it matters what n how seriously he takes it.

its very good proposal for new ca's