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On 07 August 2024 at 16:01:31
Eswar Reddy S
CFO- at NHTFWhat are the instances which can be the reasons for mismatch of Receipts and Payments Account closing balance balances of Cash and bank ?
If BRS is matched then what reasons can make the mismatch?On 08 August 2024 at 06:29:49Elisa
naMay be mistakes in recording transactions in the Receipts and Payments Account
On 08 August 2024 at 18:58:48Eswar Reddy S
CFO- at NHTFReceipts and Payments account is system generated based on the entries posted.
Balance Sheet figures correct but R & P account has some issueOn 09 August 2024 at 02:10:36Yasaswi Gomes new
FinanceIf it is tally, BRS will tally when we update the bank date. But Receipts like debtors and payments like creditors need not match because Expenses are not equal to incomes.
On 09 August 2024 at 18:51:30Eswar Reddy S
CFO- at NHTFBut Balance sheet figures and R & P closing balances should match
On 10 August 2024 at 07:05:06Yasaswi Gomes new
FinanceI'm very sorry forgot your accounting structure is R&P for NGO's. I have gone through it and if your bank reconciles, then all payments and receipts are accounted for precisely. But there is no law that balance sheet debits and credits must tally. Since R&P is real accounts the balance must be carried to next period.
On 10 August 2024 at 15:03:03Eswar Reddy S
CFO- at NHTFBut my query is only on Cash and bank closing balance s as per BS and RP and I have not asked all assets and liabilities
On 11 August 2024 at 05:25:31Yasaswi Gomes new
FinanceGot it! I browsed and the payments and receipts and it does look hard to get it. From the screenshots it looks hard to find out the discripency
https://help.tallysolutions.com/docs/te9rel66/Reports/Display_Financial_Statements/#gref
On 12 August 2024 at 00:34:24Eswar Reddy S
CFO- at NHTFGenerally it will match in tallyerp. But mine is govt organisation. They use different software
On 12 August 2024 at 11:46:28Yasaswi Gomes new
FinanceI mean I'm not worried about me know unable to understand it, but anyone observe that in the receipts column, there is sundry creditors posted and added to tally R&P. No one can understand it as per the standards.
On 12 August 2024 at 22:48:59Yasaswi Gomes new
FinanceOr maybe receipts and payments analysis is a ledger in Tally ERP 9. It was not suggested as well.
On 13 August 2024 at 03:57:44Eswar Reddy S
CFO- at NHTFAll cash and bank receipts, payments made during financial year will reflect in R & P a/c .
So Opening balance + receipts – payments= closing balance, this reflects in R & P a/cOn 14 August 2024 at 02:47:47Yasaswi Gomes new
FinanceGreat! When we transform this formula into a ledger, the B/D balance is the resultant.
On 14 August 2024 at 14:11:30Eswar Reddy S
CFO- at NHTFOnly Payments made and amounts received: Corresponding ledgers reflect in R & P a/c .
Journals, Purchase , Sales these entries may not reflect unless cash and carry.
But in my case closing balance is not matching in R & P .
Might be programming error or technical issue.
Even developer of internal software unable to trace itOn 15 August 2024 at 11:54:12Yasaswi Gomes new
FinanceIt is a big programming error to presume! Nothing can beat a clean ledger and ends all troubles in interpreting data. 5% know all of it and it is to eat up wages professional accountants. The drill down mechanism must work properly, if not, there is a big issue. I studied about mis in Oracle and it helps the strategic top management. But in this case, if the MIS pyramid doesn't work for you especially, there is something wrong with the world today!
On 15 August 2024 at 15:24:50Eswar Reddy S
CFO- at NHTFIs there any other issue?
On 16 August 2024 at 01:31:39Check the compound entries
On 16 August 2024 at 03:05:04Eswar Reddy S
CFO- at NHTFWhy compound entries?
On 16 August 2024 at 12:41:07Yasaswi Gomes new
FinanceWho knows it's really a compound entry? Only tally has it and rest all use forms.
On 16 August 2024 at 15:46:49Eswar Reddy S
CFO- at NHTFTechnical issues will be common problem in third party software programming
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