Kumaresan Grad CWA (Full time practice) (132 Points)
16 September 2008A company pays rent Rs.10,000 P.M excluding service tax, which comes to Rs.1,20,000 P.A (excluding Service Tax) - S.T amounts to Rs.14,832/- Whether provisions of TDS attracts under 194I or not?
Pooja Chopda
(Practising Chartered Accountant)
(931 Points)
Replied 16 September 2008
no it will not attract TDS...
salman
(ca)
(42 Points)
Replied 16 September 2008
According to me, TDS @ 20% shall have to be deducted from the rent payable accourding to section 194 (I)....
Learned fellow members kindly suggest....
Salman Saeed ( Chartered Accountant)
Kolkata
9339703400
Sachin Jain CA, CS, CWA
(Job)
(240 Points)
Replied 16 September 2008
No TDS attract. Because there is no liability to deduct TDS on Service Tax portion. Moreover the limit prescribed in 194 I states "More than 120000" so 120000 is not covered in this purview. So No TDS will be deducted.
kaushal
(w)
(545 Points)
Replied 16 September 2008
TDS to be decucted on amount payable to party .
so we have to pay amount including Services tax to party
so tds to be deducted on Service tax amount also
If m wrong do reply with correct answer
Narasimha Rao
(53 Points)
Replied 16 September 2008
The provision for chargability is unclear in the IT Rules., In the diallamma of considering service tax, I suggest to make TDS on the whole amount (ie,. including service tax) and issue the certificate.
Vincent Jose
(Branch In Charge)
(78 Points)
Replied 16 September 2008
I suggest that u deduct TDS,since the nature of payment is rent and TDS has to be deducted under section 194I.also i am attaching a TDS calculator with this.
CA Ravish Trivedi
(The Possibilities are Infinite...)
(772 Points)
Replied 16 September 2008
As the Law has not enumareted this topic the crux of deducting TDS is anything credited or paid is liable to deduct TDS. Hence in the above case tds is deductable.
salman
(ca)
(42 Points)
Replied 17 September 2008
Fellow Memebers,
As per section 194(I) of the income tax act specifies that TDS is to be deducted from payment of rent , where the rent is Rs 120000 or more p.a.
1) In the given case the rent amount is Rs 120000/- which qualifies for decuction of TDS.
2) If service tax is payable on and above the rent ( only in case commercial property) then the TDS amount will be calculated inclusive of service tax.
3) Rate of tds in case the property is land or building
a) 15% if the payee is individual or huf.
b) 20% if the payee is other than ind or huf.
Hope it solves this contentious issue.....
Salman Saeed, Kolkata
Chartered Accountant
09339703400
| Originally posted by :Pooja Chopda | ||
| " | no it will not attract TDS... | " |
please send me depriciation rates in TDS and Income Tax
Regards,
jai
CA Ravish Trivedi
(The Possibilities are Infinite...)
(772 Points)
Replied 27 September 2008
Tds is deductable as total rent is 1,20,000 but service tax is not considered for the aforesaid limit of Rs.1,20,000. Further tds is deductable on basic rent and service tax amount is not considered.
CA Ravish Trivedi
(The Possibilities are Infinite...)
(772 Points)
Replied 27 September 2008
| Originally posted by :salman | ||
| " | Fellow Memebers, As per section 194(I) of the income tax act specifies that TDS is to be deducted from payment of rent , where the rent is Rs 120000 or more p.a. 1) In the given case the rent amount is Rs 120000/- which qualifies for decuction of TDS. 2) If service tax is payable on and above the rent ( only in case commercial property) then the TDS amount will be calculated inclusive of service tax. 3) Rate of tds in case the property is land or building a) 15% if the payee is individual or huf. b) 20% if the payee is other than ind or huf. Hope it solves this contentious issue..... Salman Saeed, Kolkata Chartered Accountant 09339703400 |
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Dear Salman cbdt has clerified that service tax is not included in rent only for sec 194 I for other section tds is deductable inclusive basis.
prasad
(employee)
(22 Points)
Replied 15 October 2008
TDS appli applicable list and diducting persentages
ca.ramakrishna
(Chartered Accountant)
(313 Points)
Replied 21 November 2008
rent does not include service tax..
| Originally posted by :Saravana kumar | ||
| " | A company pays rent Rs.10,000 P.M excluding service tax, which comes to Rs.1,20,000 P.A (excluding Service Tax) - S.T amounts to Rs.14,832/- Whether provisions of TDS attracts under 194I or not? | " |
yes , tds will be deducted
CAclubindia
