Sec 43B of IT Act.

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As long as these charges are not routed through profit and loss a/c, there is no question of disallowance u/s 43B of IT Act, 1961.

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CA Vinay Saraf (CA) (148 Points)
Replied 10 July 2009

i totally agree with shailesh


RAJU (LEARNER) (1089 Points)
Replied 10 July 2009

Thanks to all.

 

Yes, it is illogical to add back when deduction itself is not claimed.  But can somebody through some light on the case laws that are referred.


ca tarun sharma (SERVICE) (277 Points)
Replied 10 July 2009

 

hello dharmaraju the taxes duty will be disallowed if not paid before due date of return even if not debited to p & l A/c i m giving an example to clarify
let suppose sales amount rs 10000 & vat on that amt rs 400 then entry will be if tax Debited in P& L a/c
Cash A/c            Dr                 10400
     To  Sales                                       10400
and When Tax is paid
P/L a/c  (Vat)            Dr                     400
      To  Cash                                              400
if sales for the  month of march tax will be paid in next year & will not be debited to P & l A/c current year hence income for the year will be rs 10400
now if tax not debited to P & l A/c  Entry will be
cash A/c                   Dr               10400
      To  sales A/c                                       10000
      To  Output Vat                                     400
now u have only  credited p & l a/c with Rs 10000 so u have to deposit tax before due date otherwise it will be added in ur income and ur income will be Rs 10400
if u r not clear now please reply
 

ca tarun sharma (SERVICE) (277 Points)
Replied 10 July 2009

 

hello dharmaraju the taxes duty will be disallowed if not paid before due date of return even if not debited to p & l A/c i m giving an example to clarify
let suppose sales amount rs 10000 & vat on that amt rs 400 then entry will be if tax Debited in P& L a/c
Cash A/c            Dr                 10400
     To  Sales                                       10400
and When Tax is paid
P/L a/c  (Vat)            Dr                     400
      To  Cash                                              400
if sales for the  month of march tax will be paid in next year & will not be debited to P & l A/c current year hence income for the year will be rs 10400
now if tax not debited to P & l A/c  Entry will be
cash A/c                   Dr               10400
      To  sales A/c                                       10000
      To  Output Vat                                     400
now u have only  credited p & l a/c with Rs 10000 so u have to deposit tax before due date otherwise it will be added in ur income and ur income will be Rs 10400
if u r not clear now please reply
 


ca tarun sharma (SERVICE) (277 Points)
Replied 10 July 2009

 

hello dharmaraju the taxes duty will be disallowed if not paid before due date of return even if not debited to p & l A/c i m giving an example to clarify
let suppose sales amount rs 10000 & vat on that amt rs 400 then entry will be if tax Debited in P& L a/c
Cash A/c            Dr                 10400
     To  Sales                                       10400
and When Tax is paid
P/L a/c  (Vat)            Dr                     400
      To  Cash                                              400
if sales for the  month of march tax will be paid in next year & will not be debited to P & l A/c current year hence income for the year will be rs 10400
now if tax not debited to P & l A/c  Entry will be
cash A/c                   Dr               10400
      To  sales A/c                                       10000
      To  Output Vat                                     400
now u have only  credited p & l a/c with Rs 10000 so u have to deposit tax before due date otherwise it will be added in ur income and ur income will be Rs 10400
if u r not clear now please reply
 

RAJU (LEARNER) (1089 Points)
Replied 10 July 2009

Hi Tarun,

Thanks for taking so much trouble to clarify.  I can understand all these logics and have clearly stated that there can be no question of disallowance when deduction itself is not claimed. 

Please go through the case laws referred by me and help if possible.  Please let me know if these decisions are reversed subsequently.

Regards

Dharmaraju 



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