Sec 264 vs 119(2)(b)

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Went yesterday to my Jurisdictional AO  and discuss following

1) Unclaimed TDS of Rs 95k  carried from AY 2008-09 & AY 2009-10 to AY 2010-11

2) Chapter VI  L&T bonds (u/s 80CCF) not claimed  in AY 2012-13

3) TDs of 3k came after  143(1) was issued for AY 2014-15 

AO said no new entries in return can be done at his end and you have to apply to CIT  u/s 264

He said all three refunds are possible. 

I asked him again if application u/s 264 is correct or  119(2)(b) .

According to him 119(2)(b) is for refund claims not for revised return. He was about to give me a big Income tax act book to read. i said i will find out from net.

Suddenly he got up and took me to CIT (I) . He tapped on cabin door and pushed it. The door was closed from inside. Some urgent hearing was going on.

We came back to his cabin. He told to meet CIT  and apply under section 264. 

I came back and saw income tax log in -   efile u/s 119(2)(b)/92  is there and 139(9) is there.

How to apply for revised return u/s 264 or whether AO was wrong about section?

 

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Rectification of AY 2008-09 and AY 2009-10 will be done at his end. Only tax credit mismatch and any other Arithmetaic mistakes apparent from record can be corrected - he said.

AO has not wrongly given any judgment. You have missed certain benefits (TDS , Chapter VI benefits) in your original Returrn. You are not disputing AO's initial order.  

The taxpayer can approach the CIT for revision under section 264 in
respect of any order passed by AO which you feel is incorrect.
 
For revised return  119(2)(b) is only applicable after one year after  assesment year is complete (2 years after FY is complete) . If one year has not passed then one can file u/s 139(5) even though 143(1) is issued.  

1)  Did not apply for rectification

2) Rectified online. Rectification rejected and passed rectification rights to jurisdiction AO for rectitication. AO says he does not have powers to rectify and told to apply to CIT u/s 264.

3) Rectified three times and got three times same order  - no refund no demand.

1)  For s.no 1 you have to apply for revised return u/s 119(2)(b)  and take appropriate income (if not taken) pertaining to missed out TDS

2) You can ask for revision of order u/s 264 by applying to CIT . Filing revised return is not necessary

3) Here also you can ask for revision of  order u/s 264.

Please see attached article

Most probably time limit for filing petition u/s 264 is over. Ask whether delayed petition can be filed.

1) I have accounting method as "cash" i.e receipt basis. 

All receipts in bank +TDS -  SERVICE TAX is the total income.

Missed out TDS needs to be taken on income side as well as Tax credit side.

2) Rectification rights transfered to AO in 2015. Nothing is done so far.

3) Three times put greivance and rectified return 3 times.  last one is in june 2017.

S.no 1:- if income has changed  (due to TDS) then revised return is only solution. Time is constraint.

 Go to CIT and see if he allows filing of AY 2010-11

S.no 2:- Try your luck u/s 264. but CIT has 100 of cases involving lakhs of Ruppes refund. 

  20k missed under chapter VI may fetch you  4k to 6k refund. He may send it to AO also

S.no 3:- 3k TDS missed out can be handled under 155(14).

see attached case where in  74k TDS was not claimed and still CIT(A) gave refund u/s 154.         


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