Rcm invoicing in gst

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CA Saloni (Manager-Accounts & GST Consultant)   (5124 Points)
Replied 29 July 2017

Who is talking of URD, he is asking generally...

We are dicussing on receipient side..

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Rakesh Mishra (207 Points)
Replied 01 August 2017

Originally posted by : CA Saloni
There is no such recognised invoice as purchase invoice...

Raise a self tax invoice.

Please throw lite on second part of query also i.e. - "Is it applicable for all RCM or for URD purchases only ?"


Rakesh Mishra (207 Points)
Replied 01 August 2017

Originally posted by : Sandeep Upadhyay
Service recipient is liable to pay tax under RCM if purchases from unregistered dealer So issue purchase invoice

Please throw lite on second part of query also i.e. - "Is it applicable for all RCM or for URD purchases only ?"


CA Saloni (Manager-Accounts & GST Consultant)   (5124 Points)
Replied 01 August 2017

Originally posted by : Rakesh Mishra



Originally posted by : CA Saloni



There is no such recognised invoice as purchase invoice...

Raise a self tax invoice.





Please throw lite on second part of query also i.e. - "Is it applicable for all RCM or for URD purchases only ?"

In each case of RCM, sec 31 says a self invoice has to be raised.


Lalit Sangani (M.Com. Asst. Manager Account)   (736 Points)
Replied 01 August 2017

RCM is applicable different for purchase and serivces, if we buy anything from URD, upto 5000/- per day is exempt under RCM, but If we are getting service from URD, we have to pay GST on any amount.



CA Saloni (Manager-Accounts & GST Consultant)   (5124 Points)
Replied 01 August 2017

Ye konsa naya rule aa gya????

Which notification says so??

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Lalit Sangani (M.Com. Asst. Manager Account)   (736 Points)
Replied 01 August 2017

Reverse charge under GST on 12 services on which tax shall be paid by the recipient on 100% reverse charge basis:

  • Non-resident service provider, Goods Transport Agencies
  • Legal service by an Advocate/ Firm of Advocates, Arbitral Tribunal
  • Sponsorship Services
  • Specified Services provided by Government or Local Authority to Business entity
  • Services of a director to a company
  • Insurance agent, Recovery Agent of Bank/FI/ NBFC
  • Transportation Services on Import
  • Permitting use of Copyright
  • Radio Taxi services to E-commerce aggregator (eg: Ola, Uber, etc.)

 


Rakesh Mishra (207 Points)
Replied 01 August 2017

Originally posted by : CA Saloni



Originally posted by : Rakesh Mishra






Originally posted by : CA Saloni



There is no such recognised invoice as purchase invoice...

Raise a self tax invoice.





Please throw lite on second part of query also i.e. - "Is it applicable for all RCM or for URD purchases only ?"





In each case of RCM, sec 31 says a self invoice has to be raised.

Mam, clause (f) of subsection (3) of section 31 reads as - "a registered person who is liable to pay tax under sub-section (3) or sub-section (4) of section 9 shall issue an invoice in respect of goods or services or both received by him from the supplier who is not registered on the date of receipt of goods or services or both; 

On view of the above, I have opinion that only in cases of URD purchase self Invoicing is required


CA Saloni (Manager-Accounts & GST Consultant)   (5124 Points)
Replied 01 August 2017

Yes you are correct to some extent. It also mentions 9(3) that means notified services. It may be possible that regd transporter provides you service, but still you have to raise a self invoice because he will not charge GST on his invoice and we have to mention the details of invoice on which GST has been shown separately as reqd by rules. 


CA Saloni (Manager-Accounts & GST Consultant)   (5124 Points)
Replied 01 August 2017

Originally posted by : Lalit Sangani
Reverse charge under GST on 12 services on which tax shall be paid by the recipient on 100% reverse charge basis:


Non-resident service provider, Goods Transport Agencies
Legal service by an Advocate/ Firm of Advocates, Arbitral Tribunal
Sponsorship Services
Specified Services provided by Government or Local Authority to Business entity
Services of a director to a company
Insurance agent, Recovery Agent of Bank/FI/ NBFC
Transportation Services on Import
Permitting use of Copyright
Radio Taxi services to E-commerce aggregator (eg: Ola, Uber, etc.)


 

Its not mentioned that they are URD.You have said something else in your first post.

Practically they are also getting regd.(Ex-GTA)..



Rakesh Mishra (207 Points)
Replied 01 August 2017

Originally posted by : Lalit Sangani
RCM is applicable different for purchase and serivces, if we buy anything from URD, upto 5000/- per day is exempt under RCM, but If we are getting service from URD, we have to pay GST on any amount.

The limit is including both -  services as well as goods


Lalit Sangani (M.Com. Asst. Manager Account)   (736 Points)
Replied 01 August 2017

Originally posted by : Rakesh Mishra



Originally posted by : Lalit Sangani



RCM is applicable different for purchase and serivces, if we buy anything from URD, upto 5000/- per day is exempt under RCM, but If we are getting service from URD, we have to pay GST on any amount.





The limit is including both -  services as well as goods
 
Please read my next post regarding :-
"Reverse charge under GST on 12 services on which tax shall be paid by the recipient on 100% reverse charge basis"
even many services are not notified that is exempted under RCM.
 


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