Ratta methods

Anubhav (Student) (589 Points)
Replied 24 August 2011

People are good and people are brilliant. It all depends upon interest. If CA was as easy as BCOM everybody would have passed. Just testing a few students is not going to be enough. Coaching class's revenue generation rests highly upon their performance(passing maximum amount of students). They are logically more interested in getting students passed in lesser time and if they would not follow this method they will soon be out of business. Believe me, I have seen a lot of people talk about our profession with pride and simultaneously criticizing it for some insane reasons. I myself hate ratta but the thing is that this method brings success in almost all careers and do not forget that it takes a lot of time and hard work to be successful by this method. I would certainly not call it smart work though. People who keep looking at others are the ones who are left behind. I therefore, would recommend you not to go in the thick of things and just enjoy your life. Don't you think life is too short to worry about what others are doing(if that is bad for them).

In any case, I feel that, to pass CA you should have both qualities i.e.(RATTA + DEEP STUDY). I don't know if people can pass by following just any one of those strategies and if they do(quite unlikely) they deserve to pass if they are so intelligent.

I have heard people lamenting for having failed in their favourite subjects but deep in our hearts we know that they have missed something that was required.

Somehow I found your post a relatively negative one due to this line:

"I have seen many of junior that they are in CA final but they have bundle of conceptual errors.which also brings working performance down."

Correct me if I am wrong but these lines show some jealosy. Buddy take my advise and stop judging others in the name of falling standards of ICAI. Believe me, this jealosy thing is hazardous for any person and I have experienced it with myself and others. Think whether the best member of this forum would have used such language-NEVER.

funny example-Once when me and my firends were having a friendly chat, one of our friends suggested that all the current CAs should be made to give exams so that their levels of knowledge will get exposed, we all joined in and laughed. One boy who was also present there was just silently laughing. He was the only boy from our group who cleared CA Final in first attempt. He was earlier not like that but he learned from his mistakes and tried to avoid committing those again.Three failures in PCC taught him.

We all go through negative phase of thinking in our lives and its better to make that phase as short as possible. I hope my words would have a postive effect on your thinking. I wrote this mainly for your benefit and for people who try to judge others. Remember only the most humble person would be able to enjoy being on top.

If you think that I am wrong just reply that "YOU ARE WRONG and I will be in complete agreement with you.

C.A. LINESH PATIL (CA) (910 Points)
Replied 24 August 2011

Dear i have no jealousy with any one.and why i should have.i was expressing my views N what i have seen but i wrote i have seen.and i was not claiming that other are not briliant and i am nothing to crticise others.but my view says with RATTA method you need so much of hour to study while conceptual understanding saves your a lot of time.& these are my views.it might be that i have only felt like this.

When i was in PE2 i used to study around 8 to 9 hours for daily while in final i just attend my 2 hours classes where they were teaching everything with Logic.& As i was a article of one of Big4 so it was very tough to get time to study on daily basis.N i only got 3 months of Leave with five subject to self study.but i cleared my exam.I realized that fundamental understanding & way of study that was taught to us in our class was awesome & Inspite of not studying 8 to 9 hours daily i managed to clear my Both group.

Dear i dont have any jealousy with any one.as i have already cleared my CA.

And my post was towards coaching classes.as beacuse of RATTA method we faced so many problem in PE 2 as well as in my articles.

And you are not required to teach me what i need to do or not to do.

I dont feel jealosy with any1.& you are nothing to teach me.Ok

For others if any body feel hurt so i say sorry.but it was my observation regarding classes.

Anubhav (Student) (589 Points)
Replied 25 August 2011

My observations were made in light of your statements which reflected as if you were not happy because undeserving people were passing by attending coaching classes. You signified Coaching classes as a shortcut and I disagree on that point.

Your statements led me "TO TEACH YOU". If my observations were correct you can go ahead with my advise and if they were wrong you can go on your own path. I agree that I might have gone out of my way to tell something but that was only to correct your perception about people's ability.

Anyhow, it is not always possible to judge a person completely on just one statement, that is why I told you to inform me if I was wrong and you did that. I was obviously not trying to pick a fight with you therefore I ask your pardon if my words were insulting. However, I can honestly say that was not my intention.

Nice to hear you are a CA, I am myself not a fan of coaching and I am attempting finals on my own(gives great pleasure in case of positive results). But I did attend coaching at PCC level and I found their study techniques very useful.

Best of luck for your future.

C.A. LINESH PATIL (CA) (910 Points)
Replied 25 August 2011

Dear i was not taliking about undeserving candinate & not having any issue about them i feel so happy if any1 gets pass.i was just talking about coaching classes bad appraoch.they dont teach students in a practical way.you must read my comments carefully.I have cricised coaching classes for their RATTA approach not student.n my intention was to tell that becuase of these classes one is not learning even after paying high fees which in my opinion does not make justify for students.

Thank you.

Anubhav (Student) (589 Points)
Replied 25 August 2011

Ok if you want to argue, give me an example about coaching method which you find bad.

See why are there coaching classes = To learn things in the fastest manner.

What if Sachin Tendulkar did not get coaching= He would have to sort out things all by himself which would have taken time.

A coaching class makes you abreast with the latest in the field of study in the least possible time. How will you pass an exam if you don't have basic knowledge. Believe me in my case since i was an average student, it was coaching classes infact that taught me how to pass without taking coaching.

I infact read your comments carefully.

"I have seen many of junior that they are in CA final but they have bundle of conceptual errors.which also brings working performance down"

See I'm no one to tell u anything but these lines pointed out that you meant to say that the boys who got passed at intermediate level were below a certain standard. That is what I am telling you is wrong. They are definitely above standard that is why they have passed but they may have slightly less knowledge than you which is ok. People have different level of aptitude for diffferent subjects and they might have passed but with some weakness in particular subjects because they choose to avoid that part and got lucky and passed. In CA FINAL every thing will be straightened out because the standard required in final exam is extremely high. Even in case of qualified professionals, you will find out that some are more knowledgeable than others. It is a common thing. But blaming Coaching classes for a natural phenomenon is not good, that is strictly in my opinion.

In this field if you have got qualified you need to be humble rather than brilliant, that is what I felt and that is what I stated but I am not afraid to be critized. Studying self is a challenge I love and doing Coaching is a sort of spoon feeding. We know a person becomes strong through challenges, that is why a person who has passed by self will have more respect from me.

Coaching might be spoon feeding but to pass the CA is no spoon feeding job.