Rittyk Giri (Student) (21 Points)
20 December 2016
Varun Jain
(CA, B.com )
(392 Points)
Replied 21 December 2016
Anything above 8 % is permissible for presumtive taxation with no audit required otherwise audit is required.
ankita gandhi
(student)
(5908 Points)
Replied 21 December 2016
Vineet
(Chartered accountant)
(26 Points)
Replied 21 December 2016
U have option to choose 44ad or normal slab
CA ANU RAO
(CA IN PRACTISE)
(128 Points)
Replied 21 December 2016
As per section 44AD , minimum decleration to be made is 8%, so if the profit is actually 10% or more than that the same needs to be declared. If you claim profit is less than 8%, then tax audit needs to be conducted.
CA ANU RAO
(CA IN PRACTISE)
(128 Points)
Replied 21 December 2016
As per section 44AD , minimum decleration to be made is 8%, so if the profit is actually 10% or more than that the same needs to be declared. If you claim profit is less than 8%, then tax audit needs to be conducted.
Koushik D C
(Proprietor/Freelancer)
(938 Points)
Replied 21 December 2016
8% needs to be declared under presumptive taxation u/s 44AD otherwise maintenance of books u/s 44AA & audit u/s 44AB becomes applicable. However if actual is more than 8% same can be declared by taxpayer which does not require maintenance of books and audit.
In order to achieve the Government`s mission of moving towards a less cash economy and to incentivise small traders / businesses to proactively accept payments by digital means, it has been decided to reduce the existing rate of deemed profit of 8% under section 44AD of the Act to 6% in respect of the amount of total turnover or gross receipts received through banking channel / digital means for the financial year 2016-17. However, the existing rate of deemed profit of 8% referred to in section 44AD of the Act, shall continue to apply in respect of total turnover or gross receipts received in cash.
Legislative amendment in this regard shall be carried out through the Finance Bill, 2017.
C A Bharat Halan
(Practicsing CA)
(37 Points)
Replied 21 December 2016
@ Kaushik
I guess Mr Arun Jaitley has just told in the media that they "may pay 6 %" if they digitilize but i do not believe now with whatever this guys are telling is truth or lie. So guys this might not be true unless and untill they make it law.
Koushik D C
(Proprietor/Freelancer)
(938 Points)
Replied 21 December 2016
@ Bharat
There is a CBDT Press Release in this regard. I have attached the same for your reference.
Sanjay S
(Chartered Accountant)
(1375 Points)
Replied 21 December 2016
I would like to post my answer from a previous post regarding the same issue:
Question#1: Firstly Section 44AD of The Income Tax Act, 1961 is a special provision for computing income on Presumptive Basis.
The presumption is that your estimated income is "8% of your gross receipts or such higher sum claimed to have been earned by the assessee".
This implies that.. in your case, the income shall have to be 8% of Gross Receipts or Actual Profits (20%) whichever is higher. Hence it is not possible to claim 8% income when in reality your earning more than 8%.
Now the question that crosses one's mind is "Then whats the point of having such a presumptive rate of tax??". To this I would say, where an assessee opts for this section, the IT Dept. cannot compel him to furnish Books of accounts as long as his Income offered to tax does not fall below 8%. ie., you dont have to maintain books of accounts if your Gross receipts does not exceed Rs.2 crore.
Question#2: Where one has opted for section 44AD, declares income @ 8% and later his actual profit for the relevant year turns out to be 20%.. Would he be in trouble?
Well, if the Dept. is able to corroborate the fact that you have actually made profit @ 20%, then you may just have opened up the doors for trouble. You will get penalised under the notorious section 271(1)(c) - Concealment of Income and also u/s 270A as introduced by Finance Act 2016.
Please refer the following thread for a comprehensive discussion on this topic:
Read more at: /forum/details.asp?mod_id=377832&offset=1
Sanjay S
(Chartered Accountant)
(1375 Points)
Replied 21 December 2016
Coming to the recent Press release regarding the reduction of Presumptive tax rate from 8% down to 6% for digital receipts:
Ever-since the moment, Shri. Arun Jaitley had announced the above reduction in rate to be a TAX RELIEF for all small businesses, many have interpreted that every assessee who opts for Section 44AD, may now have to declare only 6% of Gross Receipts regardless of the level of actual profits.
However I choose to disagree with the above interpretation. I would say, only a small business (say, having receipts vide digital means only) having meagre profit ratio ranging below 6%, may get the benefit of "TAX RELIEF". Earlier, if he did not want to maintain Books of accounts, he had to opt for Section 44AD and pay tax on atleast 8% of Gross receipts (eventhough actual profits were less). However, once the above amendment is brought in, he may have to pay tax only on 6% of Gross Receipts (instead of 8% earlier). This is the Tax Relief (2% of gross receipts) that Shri. Arun Jaitley seems to have referred to. Hence, any assesse earning more than 6% profits, still has to declare such higher profits as income.
The so-called "Relief" will be available only to the ones who didnt want to maintain Books of accounts, who accept receipts by digital modes AND whose actual profits were less than 8% earlier. Such assessee may now declare 2% lesser income.
Hence the position of having to declare 6% of Gross Receipts or Actual profits, whichever is higher, still seems to stand strong inspite of the proposed amendment.
In the case of businesses receiving income in cash, the tax rate appears to be the same as earlier (8%).
For now, We'll just have to wait and see how this amendment ends up in the Finance Act 2017.
Contrary views are encouraged.
K.chandrasekaran
(Partner)
(210 Points)
Replied 22 December 2016
Profits are taxable in the usual manner and any investments made later out of all such unassessed profits are accountable to tax,
CA Vivek Malhotra
(Tax Consultant)
(22 Points)
Replied 22 December 2016
It looks like all view points are based on theoretical interpretations. Looks like only students hang out in caclub forums.
Let me tell you, under section 44ad , profit is not calculated normallly (which is turnover - expense), but is considered on presumptive basis. It's straight from FAQs in Income Tax India's website.
My clients who are eligible under section 44ad, have been filling returns at 8-10% even if there actual profit ranges from 20-30% from last 10 years. As long as your turnover is correct, you won't have any problem, if you invest excess income anywhere.
There've been couple of cases where the cases have come under scrutiny, (AIR based). but the reply with proper evidence of correct turnover was accpeted by the AO without any problem.
It is at the option of the assessee to declare higher income. Government would have changed the language to make it more explicit if it wanted every assessee to declare higher of the actual profit or 8%, but it didn't. There's a reason for that.
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