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Negative income from head " salary " ..

SHAILESH SRIDHAR (NA) (47 Points)

09 March 2012

TAX TRIVIA ..........

Is negative income under the head ' SALARIES' possible ???

If yes , show calculations and and judgements or case laws(if any ) to support your answer...

THANK YOU ...

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Mayank Saraogi (Learner) (170 Points)
Replied 09 March 2012

Set Off and Carry forward of Losses haven't made any provisions of Salary LOSSES being Set off against some other income...so i guess under Tax Law Negative Salary not possible.
Moreover if we think Logically we can't pay salary to our own Emlpoyer and claim it as an expense under the Head Salaries. So for me Negative Not possible.

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SHAILESH SRIDHAR (NA) (47 Points)
Replied 09 March 2012

No buddy , i heard there is a way... lets wait and see ....

jaimin shah (Finance Manager) (111 Points)
Replied 09 March 2012

It is not possible.

SHAILESH SRIDHAR (NA) (47 Points)
Replied 10 March 2012

Maybe something to do with sec 16(iii) ???? professional tax paid ...

CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKHECHA (Practising CA at Surat) (26263 Points)
Replied 18 April 2012

One should apply his mind while studying course like CA.

( The major mistakes are committed by the most of the students that they study too much but don't apply their own mind about applicability of a particular point ).

Co-relation of various chapters should be kept in mind while reading a subject.

Refer the set off and carry forward of loss chapter to decide.

Apply logic :

Have you heard someone saying : This year I have made losses from Salary ?

( one more point : is it possible when no deductions from Salary are allowed )?

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CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKHECHA (Practising CA at Surat) (26263 Points)
Replied 18 April 2012

How much professional tax is likely to paid over and above Salary ?

Apply logic : If taxes are paid more than the Salary earned; who would be interested to do such type of service ?

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SHAILESH SRIDHAR (NA) (47 Points)
Replied 18 April 2012

Sir ,

What if I join job on march 29th and want to pay advance professional tax for three years ??

SHAILESH SRIDHAR (NA) (47 Points)
Replied 18 April 2012

Thank You CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKECHA Sir , for showing concern about his query ...

You seem to be extremely experienced and you implying that i dont have enough mind to study CA course is very welcome .. I do take your suggestion in a very good spirit ..

THANK YOU , Sir ..

Nitin Moudgil (~) (694 Points)
Replied 18 April 2012

Originally posted by : SHAILESH SRIDHAR
	you implying that i dont have enough mind to study CA course is very welcome ..

who told u this ??? sir is making you understand a point.. nobody is judging you... PS : Dont underestimate urself

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CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKHECHA (Practising CA at Surat) (26263 Points)
Replied 19 April 2012

What I meant to convey was :

Due to vast syllabus; students tend to read it very fast and ultimately not knowing what they read just after the end of the day !

At initial level; If you read slowly with perfect understanding of a point, para and topic; soon your speed would be high and this way you would overcome the problem of the vast syllabus.

( But I warn again here : First reading should be very fast ).

It should be just towards having one idea ( scope ) about the topics and the subject ). For fast track; even one may resort to index of the subject given in a book. ( Please read my articles ).

For example; if you can start the subject with any of the topic randomly; it means you can tackle it well. But if you are not able to do such in a particular subject; then definitely it requires more concentration since its beginning.

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6. Revision of whole syllabus in day one at the time of exam

( Due to some "harsh" words; if you become "HIGH ALERT;" surely it will pay for your own benefit ).

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CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKHECHA (Practising CA at Surat) (26263 Points)
Replied 19 April 2012

HUMOUR :

Since there can't be a NEGATIVE income from the HEAD Salary;

hence one should not keep NEGATIVE thoughts in his HEAD (mind) while studying.

Please don't mind and be happy.

SHAILESH SRIDHAR (NA) (47 Points)
Replied 19 April 2012

I do understand that sir..

I know logically it can never happen .. but i had heard many cases from people who have been teaching tax for 25 yrs+ that it is possible to get a negative income ( atleast mathematically )...

Me , being a maths student just wanted to confirm and prove a point , thats it..

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