Dear All,
Can any one help me to know what is the journal entries for software renewal fees of Rs.2,500/-.
Harshit Kabra (INVESTOR)
(Student CA final)
(1113 Points)
Replied 29 June 2016
software renewal charges should be capitalize as since obtaining licence/renewal license is an capital expenditure hence it will be as -
said asset acct dr 2500
to Bank acct cr 2500
or if it is purchased from vendor which u maintain records, entry will be
Asset acct dr 2500
to vendor 2500
Vendor acct dr 2500
to bank acct cr Rs. X
to discount acc Rs. 2500-x
Shubham Gupta
(Business Consultants)
(2077 Points)
Replied 29 June 2016
I think as the the software is usable for one year and become useless if not renewed, so the cost of that should be treated as revenue expenditure. Similrly the benifit of renewal is for one year so the same also to be treated as revenue expenditure for that year.
Harshit Kabra (INVESTOR)
(Student CA final)
(1113 Points)
Replied 29 June 2016
I appreciate mr shubham gupta in case of tenure of licence is 1 yr. but in case of more than 1 yr say 5 yr or 10yr then should be amortized as because -
expenditure on purchase of licence for the computing software make the assessee owner of such asset , hence he can obtain enduring benefit from such licence in his name , so thats all he has acquired an intangiable asset , such intangible asset should be amortized over the years.
Rahul
(Student CA Final )
(30 Points)
Replied 29 June 2016
CA shanky pahoja
(accountant)
(615 Points)
Replied 29 June 2016
mr. rahul as per income tax act software is covered under the defination of royalty and no depreciation is chargeble. exp is fully allowed.
and for passing entry following should be considered to ascertain wheter it is a revenue exp. or capital-
whether it is recurring exp.
whethet future economic benifits are availabe.
JAGJIT KASHYAP
(TAX CONSULTANT)
(109 Points)
Replied 29 June 2016
As mention clearly in question that, it is fee for renewal, that means there is no assets acquired/created because it is covered under "End User Licence Agreement (EULA)" and it is just expenditure.
Explanation of EULA with reference to Madras High Court ruling in Case of "Infotech Software Dealers Association vs. UOI".
The term of EULA indicated that the dominant intention of parties whereby the developer retained the copyright of each software, be it canned packaged or customized, and only the right to use with copyright protection was transferred to the subscribers or the members. The High court opined that in the transactions taking place between the members of ISODA with the customers, the software is not sold as such, but only the contents of data stored in software are sold which would only amount to service and not sale.
Therefore it should be treated as expenditure and not as capital expenditure.
Further, As per AS10-Accounting for Fixed Assets 'Whenever any expenditure is incurred, which improve performance of assets, beyond standard should be capitalized, such value should be material.
As no asset was acquired/created earlier therefore is no question of improvement of assets and that is revenue expenditure.
The view express by Mr. shanky pahoja is correct as per Explanation 4 of section 9 of Income Tax Act, 1961 (w.e.f. Finance Act 2012).
Accounting Entry.
Software Renewable Fee A/c Dr. XXX
To, Cash/Party A/c XXX
NARENDRA SAHOO
(3 Points)
Replied 29 June 2016
Soumya
(Senior Accounts Executive)
(235 Points)
Replied 29 June 2016
KUMAR GAURAV
(STUDENT)
(25 Points)
Replied 30 June 2016
What I observed here is that many of the repliers are CA/or CA final students..that means they have studied the same syllabus and gain the same knowledge as there is only one institute (ICAI) that regulates all these..but what I found here is that they all have different concepts/different answer/different view on the topic..why so?
Soham
(Learning )
(534 Points)
Replied 30 June 2016
Software renewal should be trated as Revenue Expenditure as it is not adding any value addition to the system where its productivity will extraordinarily will be increased with respect to busniess .
Harshit Kabra (INVESTOR)
(Student CA final)
(1113 Points)
Replied 30 June 2016
but mr. Soham Royalty expenditure is amortized over the years,till the benefit from this can be revealed.(only if more than 1yr.)
furthere, if the expenditure on royalty are benefited for a single fy then should be recognized as expense immediately.
Soham
(Learning )
(534 Points)
Replied 01 July 2016
Harshit , Go through below link by EAC in CA Journal 2015
https://dhc.co.in/uploadedfile/1/2/-1/EAC%20opinion%20on%20Amortisation%20of%20SAP%20license%20and%20Accounting%20for%20Annual%20Renewal%20Fee.pdf
CA Sagar Davda
(Manager)
(46 Points)
Replied 13 October 2017
Correct !!!! Appreciate the view given by Mr. Jagjit Kashyap.
Prachi Bansal
(3129 Points)
Replied 22 March 2021
journal entry for expenses done for staff on travel allowance? Is it additional with the salary?