i FEEL MR JIGAR IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT
H.R.Sampath Kumar
(Company Secretary & DY GM A/cs)
(61 Points)
Replied 30 August 2008
i FEEL MR JIGAR IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT
CA Naveen Kumar Agrawal
(Chartered Accountant / MBA)
(939 Points)
Replied 31 August 2008
Originally posted by :H.R.Sampath Kumar | ||
" | i FEEL MR JIGAR IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT | " |
Mr. H.R.Sampath Kumar Company Secretary & DY GM A/cs
Will u explain me what journal entry will be passed in books of a/cs of a Co. if one of its customer (name Cash) pays the Co. a sum in cash for payments of his dues to the Co.?
if ur reply is same as i explained in my very first reply to this thread (vide the 10th entry in this thread) then How can u say Mr. Jigar is "absolutely" Right ignoring the logical reply of other members.(even i hv accepted tht he is right but not completely, his approach is limited) i just wanna say to widen d scope of ur thinking to understand the point of view of others too. and if u r totally disagee wid me, fetch the correct entry wid ur strong logic.
Regards,
CA Naveen Kumar Agrawal
shravan
(103 Points)
Replied 31 August 2008
cash a/c dr
to cash cr
There are two accounts CASH A/c and CASH. In an entry only accounts can be entered. Since the word 'cash a/c' is before dr. I assume that to be an account and similarily 'cash' another account. The meaning of this entry is that a cash payment is being made and the account of that party is represented by cash a/c or it could be vice versa meaning that its is a cash receipt.This is the basic meaning of this entry. The reason for two meanings is that in practical a cash a/c can any number of names as long as it is grouped under cash in the balance sheet. There can be a lot of inferences that can be drawn from this entry but that is not in the scope of the question. Is this answer satisfactory?
Dear Friends, Relying on what i was taught during in school and College on Book keeping and Accounts three decades ago, and also Prof. B.S. Raman,( now retired from St. Alosyius College, Mangalore), i wish to state as under :
a) The word A/c can be written for personal Accounts also. Prof. Raman writes as under:
b) Double Entry Book keeping does not mean that one of the entries of a transaction should be made in one party's book and the other entry of the transaction should be made in other party's book. What it really means is that both the entries of a trnsaction should be made in each party's book. Further, this system does not mean that the two entries of a transaction should be made in the same account . What it actually means means is that the two entries of a transaction should be made in two different accounts.
c) Again this system does not mean that the two entries of a transaction should be made in two accounts in the same direction or side. What it really means is that the two entries of a transaction should be made in two different accounts in opposite direction or sides.
d) kindly refer to page No 17 of the Book " Accountancy- Volume I "' meant for PUC 1st year (* FOR kARNATAKA STATE),, written by Prof Raman, published by United Publishers, Alaiman Compound, Jeppu, Mangalore-575 001.
e) Yyou may write to the said professor for further clarification, if still doubt persists, for better apprreciation of the whole issue.
f) If the name of the Person/Party itself is " . Cash", it is better you use th Prefix Mr or M/s for better understanding of the nature of that Acount. Y ou can use the word A/c. also after the word "Cash" I donot see any bar on this usage.
g) In view of the above, If it is not " Mr Cash or M/s Cash Account Dr to Cash Account, , but only Cash A/c Dr to Cash A/c, To me it seems wrong it may be only hypothetical issue, ( the hypothesis is also wrong)
H.R.Sampath Kumar
(Company Secretary & DY GM A/cs)
(61 Points)
Replied 01 September 2008
Dear Friends, Relying on what i was taught during in school and College on Book keeping and Accounts three decades ago, and also Prof. B.S. Raman,( now retired from St. Alosyius College, Mangalore), i wish to state as under :
a) The word A/c can be written for personal Accounts also. Prof. Raman writes as under:
b) Double Entry Book keeping does not mean that one of the entries of a transaction should be made in one party's book and the other entry of the transaction should be made in other party's book. What it really means is that both the entries of a trnsaction should be made in each party's book. Further, this system does not mean that the two entries of a transaction should be made in the same account . What it actually means means is that the two entries of a transaction should be made in two different accounts.
c) Again this system does not mean that the two entries of a transaction should be made in two accounts in the same direction or side. What it really means is that the two entries of a transaction should be made in two different accounts in opposite direction or sides.
d) kindly refer to page No 17 of the Book " Accountancy- Volume I "' meant for PUC 1st year (* FOR kARNATAKA STATE),, written by Prof Raman, published by United Publishers, Alaiman Compound, Jeppu, Mangalore-575 001.
e) Yyou may write to the said professor for further clarification, if still doubt persists, for better apprreciation of the whole issue.
f) If the name of the Person/Party itself is " . Cash", it is better you use th Prefix Mr or M/s for better understanding of the nature of that Acount. Y ou can use the word A/c. also after the word "Cash" I donot see any bar on this usage.
g) In view of the above, If it is not " Mr Cash or M/s Cash Account Dr to Cash Account, , but only Cash A/c Dr to Cash A/c, To me it seems wrong it may be only hypothetical issue, ( the hypothesis is also wrong)
Vidya
(Student)
(789 Points)
Replied 06 September 2008
Many have wandered away from the original entry. It need not be a Fraud entry. Suppose I am exchanging cash in INR to USD. I can have two accounts, one for cash in INR and other account for cash in USD. When I am exchanging the currency, we can pass the entry
Cash A/c Dr.
To Cash A/c
Jigar
(Student)
(661 Points)
Replied 06 September 2008
Mr.Navin u r right
both a/cs can be different
but then it should be specified
as u know there can only be one cash book in the a/cs books so plz specify the nominclature of the a/cs