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CA Sahil Singla.. (Service Tax ) (3746 Points)
Replied 12 December 2010

PLZ ALSO TELL ME REGARDING THE NEW ORIENTATION SORT OF PROGRAMME STARTED BY ICSI..


shakeel Ahmed (CA Final & CS Final Student)   (128 Points)
Replied 12 December 2010

TO,sweta Bansal,and dear all....

yes i don't think it is difficult to do CA with CS as i m itself pursuing ...as if student is in PCC/IPCC he has got two subject common that is tax and cost & account and partly company law in CS EXECUTIVE and  if he/she is CA final student then he has DT/IDT/LAW etc subjects are commen in CS final so i don't think a CA student can't  do so...

and as far as exemption ,CA STUDENT get exemption in ITT TRAINING. "ONLY TRAINING" ..He/she has to appear  for exam and make DD of Rs.496 "ICSI,payable at New Delhi.

and if he/she has completed ICWA,M.COM,and accordingly will get  exemption in account and tax..and same in in final......


BALASUBRAMANYA B Npro badge (CCI STUDENT....) (44679 Points)
Replied 12 December 2010

KIND ATTN MR. PRADIP,

 

 

 

NEW TRAINING STRUCTURE

 

The Council of the Institute has approved new training structure for the students of the Company Secretaries course enrolled on or after 1st September, 2009.

                 

The New Training Structure includes conducting 7 days Student Induction Programme (SIP), 8 days Executive Development Programme (EDP), 25 hours’ compulsory attendance of Professional Development Programmes (PDP), Management Skills Orientation Programme and other requirements during training period while maintaining the existing duration of training, as under:

 

I.       Duration of training:

 

The existing period of training of 15 Months will be continued and students are free to undergo training wholly or partly with a Company Secretary in Practice or a Company registered for imparting training. 

 

Further, the existing 15 days training in a specialized agency such as the Office of the Registrar of Companies, stock exchange, financial or banking institution or management consultancy firm for another fifteen days, after passing Professional Programme (Final) exams is continued.

 

II.     Training Programmes:

 

The three programmes at different stages of the course would be conducted as under:

 

a).      Student Induction Programme (SIP) - Duration - 7 days, to be completed by the students within 6 months of registration to the Executive Programme (Intermediate Exams ) covering the following areas:-

 

1.                                                          English Speaking Skills.

2.                                                          Personality Development and Life Skills – Basic                   

                           Concepts.

3.                                                          Introduction to Course Contents, Electives and                  Opportunities both in practice and employment.

4.                                                          Communication Skills, Writing ability-drafting                   etc.

5.                                                          Usefulness of Reading Newspaper

6.                                                          SWOT Analysis

7.                                                          Computer Literacy (Basics)

8.                                                          Know your Institute

 

b).      Executive Development Programme (EDP) - Duration 8 days, after passing the Executive Programme (Intermediate Exams) covering the following areas:-

 

1.      Personality Development - and Life Skills – Advanced Concepts (Interpersonal Skills, Decision Making Skills, Team Spirit, Negotiating Skills)

2.       Computer Literacy and Training (Advance)

3.       General awareness of Indian/Global economy, business conditions, Regulatory Insight, Capital Markets, and opportunities 

4.       Organisation Structure, Role of ROC/CLB/SEBI/SAT /Stock Exchanges/RBI/CCI/ TRAI/NCLT/NCLAT

5.       Drafting of Minutes, Notices, Resolutions, Advance business tools such as internet browsing, video conferencing etc.

6.       Etiquettes, Inter personal skills, Communication skills, Office culture;

7.       Significance of training and Code of conduct applicable during training period

8.       Interview Techniques & How to face interviews.

 

c).      Management Skills Orientation Programme (MSOP)Duration 15 days after passing Professional Programme (Final Exams) covering:-

 

CORE TOPICS

 

1.           Leadership skills, Innovation, latest trends in management   thoughts.

2.           Business strategy, Corporate restructuring through Mergers & Amalgamations, Take Over, Valuation, Competition Law, Consumer Protection.     

3.           Cross border transactions, global business scenario.

4.           Major tax laws, Double Taxation Treaty Agreements, Service Tax. 

5.           Corporate Governance, Business Ethics, Sustainability.

6.           Meetings, Secretarial Standards, Important provisions of Company Law.

7.           Capital Market related topics, Regulatory insight, Exchange related issues.

8.           Projects covering diverse areas including corporate laws.

9.           Intellectual Property Rights

10.       Arbitration, Conciliation, Alternate Dispute Redressal    Mechanism

11.       Corporate Compliance Management

12.       Areas of Practice –Existing & Emerging

13.       Understanding  Financial Statements

14.       Art of Advocacy, Court craft, Pleadings

15.       Board Room behaviour, Drafting of Chairmen’s Speech, Directors’ Report

16.       Networking skills and business behaviour

17.       About ICSI and Code of Conduct

18.       Any other Topic of Topical interest.

 

As far as practicable, the mechanism for MSOP would be through Case Studies, Story Telling, Group Discussions, Role Playing, simulation exercises and the like so as to provide a real-life practical exposure.

 

ELECTIVES

 

1.     Behavioral Sciences

2.     Listing Compliances, Case Studies

3.     Sick Companies and solvency laws

4.     NGOs /Micro financing/Cooperative Societies

5.     Part IX Companies

6.     Practical aspects of Criminal law

7.     Inspection and Investigation, Compounding of offences under various laws Companies Act, FEMA, SEBI

8.     VAT-Procedure & Practice

9.     Laws relating to Intellectual Property Rights

10. Taxation – Corporate Taxation, Personal Tax Planning & Management, Filing of Returns

11. Private Equity, Venture Capital, Hedge Funds

12. International Trade & Policy

13. Banking & Insurance

14. Cyber laws

15. Stress management

 

 

III.     Implementation Schedule:

 

Under the new training structure 7 days Student Induction Programme (SIP) & 8 days Executive Development Programme (EDP) would be implemented by Regional Councils & Chapters as under:

 

i)                                                 Regional Councils                 1st September, 2009

ii)                                               A-1/ A grade Chapters          1st January, 2010

iii)                                            B grade Chapters                  1st April, 2010

 

 

IV.     Fee structure:

 

a)                              Student Induction Programme (SIP)                         Rs. 1000/-

b)                              Executive Development Programme (EDP)                Rs. 1000/-

 

 

 

V.      Applicability:

 

The new revised training structure will be applicable to the students registered on or after 1st September, 2009.

 

VI      Attendance in 25 hours Professional Development Programme (PDP):

 

The students will be required to complete 25 hours of Professional Development Programme (PDP). The Regional Councils & Chapters would allow the students to attend such programmes at concessional rates.

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BALASUBRAMANYA B Npro badge (CCI STUDENT....) (44679 Points)
Replied 12 December 2010

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THIS POSTING WAS POSTED EARLIER BY MR.
RAMESH KUMAR VERMA

THANKS FOR POSTINGS..

 

 

REGARDS

BALU


CS LLB Pulkit Gupta (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Life-and-Promises/553962034682487)   (16631 Points)
Replied 12 December 2010

Thanks for the  info Gaurav



Gokul Viswanath Shenoy (Company Secretary & Finance Manager)   (430 Points)
Replied 13 December 2010

i never wrote an eligibility test for executive program..n now i'm going to write the 2nd group after passing d 1st group in last exam..i got exemption in doing the ITT program...only appeared for the test..



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Agree with Gaurav...


kiran (SELF PRACTISING) (25 Points)
Replied 13 December 2010

hey frndz..

 

its not tough to pursue both togethre at once..

CA IIT student would get exemption in CS IIT training..

 


Shravan (Completed Articles) (52 Points)
Replied 13 December 2010

Is it compulsory to undergo Student Induction Program (SIP) to be eligible to write Intermediate Exam? or is it optional?


Raghunath Prasad (WORKING) (385 Points)
Replied 13 December 2010

ya u can easily get an exemption after submitting a copy of ur itt certificate of ca


 



srinivass (CA Final) (2466 Points)
Replied 13 December 2010

hi plz tell me about cs founfation fee & last date for register under ICSI for this june attempt.


aneel (PRACTISE) (130 Points)
Replied 13 December 2010

Even ICSI has set some Pre- requirement then also 

With proper planning both CA and CS are easily managable...



dinesh (accounts) (21 Points)
Replied 13 December 2010

There is exemption in training, but u have to appear for online test. 


Raushan (Student) (85 Points)
Replied 13 December 2010

This is What I got to know from ICSI website:

 

A student can be exempted from undergoing the course on

the basis of his existing qualification/degree in the computer field

subject to the conditions that he/she enrolls him/herself for an

online exemption test (to be conducted by APTECH) at any of the

recognized Aptech Center for ICSI-Aptech Course on all India

basis and successfully clears the test. TWO attempts will be

allowed for the student to clear the online exemption test within a

period of 30 (thirty) days against the fees of Rs.450/-.



CA Sahil Singla.. (Service Tax ) (3746 Points)
Replied 13 December 2010

thanks raushan...plz any body inform me regarding SIP course recently started by ICSI...i think it is compulsory b4 giving exec. xams



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