Nisha Yadav (Accounts exe) (455 Points)
28 September 2015Dear All,
Good morning
I am preparing tax computation of individual who has salary income along with proprietorship business also.
Salary income - 7,00,000/-
Proprietorship -
Sale - 6,00,000
Exp - 5,60,000.
Profit - 40,000/-
is there any need to tax audit as profit is below 8%
Please help me
prem rajpurohit
(student)
(31 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
Nisha Yadav
(Accounts exe)
(455 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
I know that 1Cr limit for tax audit ..
I am asking here that is this situation attract section 44AD .
CA Mehul chauhan
(Practice)
(50 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
Nisha Yadav
(Accounts exe)
(455 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
THANKS FOR REPLY .
can you please expalin what will happen in my above mention case ??
Miss Rinkal
(Student)
(1309 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
The assessee can opt for Sec 44AD. Since the actual profit is below 8%, the profits can be taken at 8% and assessee will thereby not require to maintain books of accounts and get them audited. However if the assessee wants to consider the actual profits then the assessee will not only be liable to maintain books of accounts but also get the audited. I.e profits are to be shown at 48000/-.
In the present case it is advisable to opt for sec 44AD rather than maintaining books of a/cs and get them audited as the cost of them will definitely exceed than the tax to be paid under sec 44AD
Nisha Yadav
(Accounts exe)
(455 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
thanks for your reply ,,,
I do not want to take option 44ad .. if I show the profit 48500 .. thn should i need to get audit my accounts.
Miss Rinkal
(Student)
(1309 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
You can opt for profits higher than 8% also. However it should not exceed 120000 else it will become mandatory to maintain books of accounts as per Sec 44AA
Nisha Yadav
(Accounts exe)
(455 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
Thanks :
so if i show profit 48500 (i e higher thn 8%)
1) 44 AA is not aplicable as toal sale is 6,00,000 (i e below 10,00,000)
2 ) 44 AB is not aplicable as profit is more thn 8%
But i read somewehere :
44 AB will not aplicable even profit is higher thn 8% if total income is less than Tax applicable amount (i e 2, 50,000 )
I just confuse here in term total income ..
Total income from business or total income from all sources
Please reply
RAHULSMITTAL
(Partner, V Mittal & Co)
(252 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
Miss Rinkal
(Student)
(1309 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
@ CA RAHUL MITTAL:
Sec 44AD rw Sec 44AB - Tax audit is applicable when income is shown below the presumptive rate of 8% of receipts / turnover AND his total income exceeds the basic exemption limit. Here total income means total income from all sources and not just business income.
However in the present case, since there is income from salary as well and the same exceeds the basic exemption limit. Hence if profits are shown below 8% then it is subjected to tax audit
Anubhav
(Student)
(589 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
44AB Every person
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(d)carrying on the business shall, if the profits and gains from the business are deemed to be the profits and gains of such person under section 44AD and he has claimed such income to be lower than the profits and gains so deemed to be the profits and gains of his business and his income exceeds the maximum amount which is not chargeable to income-tax in any previous year
This line breaks the spirit of the provision but it is what it is. I have seen people interpreting it in different ways but practically I have had no occassion to experience such a problem. In reality I would rather show profit of Rs.48000 in the books as prescribed u/s.44AD and pay the taxes accordingly
However in some scenarios it can be a very complicated issue.
As per the section and taking into consideration the figures you provided, one can concur that audit is required since income exceeds the maximum amount which is not chargeable to income-tax in any previous year
TEKRAJ BHATT
(Student Others)
(30 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
Miss Rinkal
(Student)
(1309 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
@ Nisha Yadav:
Total income means total income from all sources and not business income only.
Wrt 44AB:
If the turnover exceeds Rs 1 crore.
OR
If turnover is less than 1 crore and have opted to show income below the presumptive rate of 8% of the turnover AND the total income exceeds basic exemption limit (Sec 44AD)
OR
If turnover is less than 1 crore and have opted to show income below the deemed profits specified under Sec 44AE
The AND condition is very important in Sec 44AD I.e. even if the income is shown below 8% but if the total income does not exceed the basic exemption limit then too the tax audit u/s 44AB is not liable.
Maybe you must have got confused between showing income exceeding 8% and income below 8%.
You can always opt for income exceeding 8% (As read u/s 44AD).
Sec 44AB rw Sec 44AD : Tax audit is applicable only and only if income is shown below the presumptive rate of tax I.e 8% AND the total income exceeds basic exemption limit
Miss Rinkal
(Student)
(1309 Points)
Replied 28 September 2015
@ Anubhav:
It is at the option of the assessee whether to show income below the presumptive rate or above or equal to.
Hence in whatever case the assessee is benefited will be considered
Please read the subsection below
Notwithstanding anything contained in the foregoing provisions of this section, an eligible assessee who claims that his profits and gains from the eligible business are lower than the profits and gains specified in sub-section (1) and whose total income exceeds the maximum amount which is not chargeable to income-tax, shall be required to keep and maintain such books of account and other documents as required under sub-section (2) of section 44AA and get them audited and furnish a report of such audit as required under section 44AB.
Hence it can be concluded that the assessee has an option and not an obligation to claim the profits lower or >=
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