as per Regulation 39(2)

The Council may, in its discretion, revise the marks obtained by all candidates or a section of candidates in any particular paper or papers or in the aggregate in such manner as may be considered necessary, for maintaining the standards of pass percentage provided in these Regulations.

refer following link

https://www.sa-dhan.net/Adls/Legal/Banking/Rules/PriRule/CharteredAccoRegu1988.htm#39

hi frnds,

 

he got 186 marks as per results  but actually in papers 176 is there how there can be a difference in marks what ever there in answer books should come in the results know he got 193 in the November attempt and he is very much upset.

the council has right to revise the marks under regulation 39(2) for maintaining standard pass percentage.........

we can not go beyond the act

actually to say the truth ICAI is awardig grace marks in hopes of a few more students passing .....we are here talking as if our institute is the guilty party .i didn't pass my final exam either i am sure its my fault ..so please just knock it off and move on ............

Hi Friends,

 

First of all lets respect ICAI...... it makes no sense in critizing the institute, which we all would be part of sooner or later....

If we believe that institute has a policy of standard deduction, than it also a policy of adding a fix no. of marks in case of a particular paper (if needed) .... the reason could be a tough paper, or the overall performance of the students has not been upto par.....

The same happened in my case when I had applied for verification and a certified copy of AUDIT Paper (Nov-11).....

As per my result, I secured 47 marks in Audit, but when I received the certified copy of my audit paper.... only 42 marks wetre awarded to me..... !!

Friends, I know you all want to be C.A. ..... there are times of injustice.... (which most of us would have faced.... no doubt in that.....)...... but then sometimes we need to accept it and move forward..... !!.....

hi friends,

what vipul says is correct. the institute has powers to increase marks to maintain a certain pass % as per its rules and regulations. So there is no surprise if mark obtained is higher than themark available in the answer paper. The institute is generous to offer some sort of moderation to all considering various factors. Even then if we fail we cannot blame the institute

Originally posted by : Lakshmi Parasuram
	hi friends, what vipul says is correct. the institute has powers to increase marks to maintain a certain pass % as per its rules and regulations. So there is no surprise if mark obtained is higher than themark available in the answer paper. The institute is generous to offer some sort of moderation to all considering various factors. Even then if we fail we cannot blame the institute

If a student has received few marks extra there should not be so much of hue and cry about it. The problem would be if marks received are less than what is mentioned in Answer books. Going through the topic of disuccion, it appears that all the comments are about increase in marks. 

Whatever it is... I just hate this ridiculous system of ICAI...At times they give such tough papers that they also feel like giving grace marks to students and at times they give so easy papers that they need to deduct few marks... And in all this process there are few unfortunate students who suffers. This is simply the misuse of the said section39(2). I seriously have no faith in the way our papers are being corrected. Our papers are being corrected by Practising CAs and not by any specialised professors or lecturers. Just imagine a practising Ca who is specialised in Taxation and having no or very little knowledge of information technology is given ISCA/MICS papers to correct. I am not saying that all practising CAs are not capable of correcting our papers but does institue really evaluates if some of them are capable enough... Also there are instances when some of these CAs give our answer scriptts to their Article Assistants for correction. Sorry if i have hurt anyone of yours sentiments but thats the bitter truth of this professional institute being so unprofessional.

Concerns raised by Ashish are genuine. So are the reasoning given by the others. But for those who say that  one should not raise the alarm because they are going to be part of this institute, I'd ask one thing one simple question :

"Why the government does not print more money to distribute it among poor to make them rich ?"

Because it won't help as the money will loose its value correspondingly.

Similarly, making people CA who were not ready to be so, will reduce the value of CA degree. So even if you become part of the institute, your value will decrease, permanently.

2)  Suffering of Good student by example :   Mr A is better than Mr.B. Attempt of Mr.B is in Nov-13 and that of Mr.A is in May-14. ICAI decides to have a good pass % in Nov-13, so Mr.B is declared "Pass". After Nov-13, ICAI realises that oversupply is there so let's have very less results for 2 years. There is good chance that Mr.A will not be able to clear CA by Mar-16.

Friends! it is going to happen. The cost of increased pass % in Nov-12 and May-13 will be borne by those who will give attempts in future.

 

 

it is a standard policy of the institute.they give grace marks in almost all subjects..Except in a case where paper was very easay...However since they provide you with the answer sheets these days,they cannot deduct marks or give less marks than what you deserve...

I believe institute can do very little when it comes to deducting marks.As far as i m concerned they can only control the content of question paper i.e. the difficulty and the marking scheme.

whether it was 176 marks or 186 marks the friend didnt get thru.. doesnt make any difference to the overall results or to the Institute...

i guess 186 gives better inspiration to try once again than 176.

on a cynical note, 186 gives better inspi to spend money again... kya?

Check https://knowhisjob.com/ to know what kind of work chartered accountants do in various companies.

 

 

HI Friends,

Let me share my opinion about the issue:

First of all the Marks in the result, got by the candidates should be taken from the Answer paper which is the primary evidence.  How it can be possible there is a mismatch in the Marks as per Result and the Answer books, as it can be compared to the Balance Sheet which is not tallied.  And that too being a 2^nd world largest Professional institutes the great ICAI should not have such kind of Issues.

If at all there is a mismatch (whether increase/decrease in marks as compared to the result) the same should be declared as “Discrepancy found” in the re-verification result irrespective of the result of the Candidate due to such re-verification.

As some of My friends mentioned in the discussion the following points, I have few questions in my mind:

There might be grace marks added in the result

How the candidate will come to know that for a particular question grace marks are awarded?   Is it not Possible that in the Answer sheet itself they can mention as :   Marks Secured by candidate : xxxx Add: Grace Marks Awarded  : XXXX Total                                            XXXX   In the absence of the above it can be concluded that the results are manipulated in the XLS Data base.  Consequently candidate will get abnormal marks (the well written paper – low marks and the normal written paper – high marks)   IS this is, CA exams are “expect the unexpected”?

CA Regulation 39(2) – maintaining the Standard of Pass %

Yes I do agree that there is a Regulation for maintaining the standard of pass%.   Is the Regulation cannot be amended?   Is the Institute doesn’t want a eligible (in terms of Knowledge, expertise, presentation etc) candidate to be qualified parson?    Consequently the candidate will have a question that when the institute will give a pass result for me, irrespective of the good efforts, presentation etc in each attempt of exam.

 

IS there is a remedy for the above?

1)      It possible by a Member who has Ethics and accountability in life (not only for the purpose of exam but in  professional and personal life).

2)      A candidate should take other professional courses which has transparency, give priority to the candidates knowledge, expertise, presentation etc and not just for regulation, simultaneously.  And wait for the institute’s pass % to be high for his pass result.

Disclaimer:

The above is solely my opinion and doesn’t have any other intention to harm the reputation of the institute and members.

ISME NAYA KYA HAI ........