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CA Harbinder (CA ) (1245 Points)
31 March 2008
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Prasad R
(CA Final)
(2128 Points)
Replied 31 March 2008
some thing to cheer for the Article Assistant's now.
Regards
Prasad.R
Joseph Alexander
(CA Final Student)
(163 Points)
Replied 08 April 2008
Yes it is a big loss VG. here i paste a series of queries with an executive of the institute.....
Respected Sir/Madam,
I am a PCC student. I have completed 9 months of articleship. I am pursuing my B. Com degree simultaneously (college hours being 08:15 AM to 01:15 PM). While joining PCC i had submitted FORM NO. 112 and am under the flexible timings scheme.But now as per the latest circular/amendments, we, CA students are not permitted to pursue graduation and have flexible office timings. My office hours are as follows: 02:00 PM to 08:00 PM on weekdays and 10:00 Am to 08:00 PM on Saturdays and other holidays (days when there is no college) (Lunch break being 01:00 PM to 2:00 PM only on Saturdays and other holidays i.e. only on case two) Hence my office hours excluding lunch breaks sums up to minimum 39 hours a week. But now as per the new notification, 1. flexible timings are not permitted, 2. articleship can't start after 11:00 AM and 3. work in the normal course can't exceed 07:00 PM (but if it's reduced so my total hours a week would become less than 35 hours) My parents are firm that i pursue my B. Com degree and that too only in a reputed institution like that of LOYOLA college, where i am currently doing my under graduation. Whilst i am interested to do my Chartered Accountancy. So far i have been doing my articleship taking best So please advice me on how do I hvae to go about things now and what i should do, when and how. Looking forward for your reply and thanking you in anticipation; JOSEPH ALEXANDER. |
Respected Sir,
I would like to remind you that i have already submitted FORM 112. Now what i would like to know is that whether the ammendment made is only for students who have applied on or after April 1, 2008 or for all. If it applies for all and that i have submitted my form 112, could i have any problem, I would like to just get this point clear as the ammendment quotes thus:
"The articled assistant presently registered and undergoing graduation or any other course and who have not obtained specific permission shall be required to obtain the specific permission from the ICAI by submitting Form No.112 within six months of issue of these guidelines i.e. by 30th September, 2008. However those students who have already obtained the specific permission by submitting Form No. 112, need not obtain it again and the permission so granted shall continue to be valid."
Looking forward for a positive reply form your side; JOSEPH ALEXANDER.
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You people are feeling it great of working less... but i tell you your attitude is wroing, please change it. its for your good...
Dear Joseph
Thank you very much for your inputs. Please do let us know the detailed response received from the Institute for the benefit of all. I have also sent one query to the Institute which I reproduced below.
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Dear Sir,
I would request you to please suggest on the following in view of changes in Articleship Training:
1) Depriving the opportunity to do regular degree course simultaneously with PCC.
2) Student who passed Nov. 07 CPT registered for PCC in the month of Jan. 2008. By that time the student finished 1st year B.Com regular. Now with the new working hours, it may not be possible to continue regular B.Com.
3. It being a toughest course, if a student could not complete CA due to any reason, he stands nowhere if he did not pursue his graduation.
4. If B.Com is seriously considered as a value addition, is it possilbe to reconsider the conditions for Articles ?
5. Will it not be ok if Articleship training of 3 1/2 years starts after 1 1/2 years of PCC registration ? This will give students an opportunity to gain some theoritical knowledge of accountancy and become mature enough to work in corporate environment.
Of course, you are the best judge to form the guidelines in the interest of students. I shall be grateful for your kind response to my queries.
With regards
Venugopal
Amar Mohta
(Senior Accountant)
(21 Points)
Replied 05 July 2008
What is the minimum working hours for an article assistant.