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Analysis and answers of nov 2011 accounts ipcc

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akshat (owner) (57 Points)
Replied 04 November 2011

Originally posted by : mridulpinto

hey can anybody tell .. the question that was asked in the question paper on sale or returnable basis was from which chapter ??

it was from "common sense" chapter.. or u can say it was a googly from cpt... ab ipcc mein hain to tna to aana hi chahiye !!! but that is different matter that i did it wrong


Justin (ya) (32 Points)
Replied 04 November 2011

can anybody please tell me the answer to Q3, machine account?


akshat (owner) (57 Points)
Replied 04 November 2011

actually !!! someone tell me how to find straight line depreciation when nothing is given..no original cost , no life nothing.. !!! how to solve that question...i took simply the depriciations of given amount...& whats the answer for partnership question??


Dinesh S Chawla (To Become a Successful Chartered Accountant)   (40 Points)
Replied 05 November 2011

hey guys pls yaar, can anyone help me for the answers of the compulsory questions part (b) sale or return basis and (c) depreciation accounting?? :-)


Dinesh S Chawla (To Become a Successful Chartered Accountant)   (40 Points)
Replied 05 November 2011

hey guys pls yaar, can anyone help me for the answers of the compulsory questions part (b) sale or return basis and (c) depreciation accounting?? :-)



Rahul (Chartered Accountnat CS)   (1580 Points)
Replied 05 November 2011

Even I am in search of question 1 (b) and (c)


Paigaam (student) (23 Points)
Replied 06 November 2011

In question 1b according to as9 revenue recognition it should be treated as consignment sales
(if they are retail sales on sale or return basis)

but question provides that " the firm treats it as ordinary sales transactions.

so i passed these entries
1. Debtors dr
      to sales (on sale of goods)
2. sales return  DR
         to debtores
          (on return of goods
3. no entry on acceptance of goods
4. sales dr

      To debtors

(for closing stock)

Wat say ???
 


meera ki giridhari! (student) (225 Points)
Replied 06 November 2011

yes thats the answer i wrote for 2nd question.......sale or approval basis.....and for deprcn - is 160000 and the value for whch it is disposed of..then as per the months of usage .and so the loss of 12500!!!! is it right???


Rahul (Chartered Accountnat CS)   (1580 Points)
Replied 06 November 2011

Originally posted by : Paigaam

In question 1b according to as9 revenue recognition it should be treated as consignment sales
(if they are retail sales on sale or return basis)

but question provides that " the firm treats it as ordinary sales transactions.

so i passed these entries
1. Debtors dr
      to sales (on sale of goods)
2. sales return  DR
         to debtores
          (on return of goods
3. no entry on acceptance of goods
4. sales dr

      To debtors

(for closing stock)

Wat say ???
 

Wrote a similar answr................... wow


mridul savio Pinto (articled trainee ) (1477 Points)
Replied 06 November 2011

@ rahul .. can you just elaborate on what basis did you calculate rent for pre & post incorp period ?? & how did you distributed that director fees ??



Dinesh S Chawla (To Become a Successful Chartered Accountant)   (40 Points)
Replied 06 November 2011

hey guys what about the stock reserve yaar? and can anyone please elaborate on the Qn 1(c) about depreciation?????


Rahul (Chartered Accountnat CS)   (1580 Points)
Replied 06 November 2011

Originally posted by : mridulpinto

@ rahul .. can you just elaborate on what basis did you calculate rent for pre & post incorp period ?? & how did you distributed that director fees ??

see rent for july to oct (1200(per annum)/12) x 4 =  400

                 nov to march (1200/12)x1 + !3000/12) x 3 = 950

 

The major mistake tat students may do is expenses are give per annum (p.a.)

 

 

director   6000/12x4                       and                                         12000/12x5

 

 


Rahul (Chartered Accountnat CS)   (1580 Points)
Replied 06 November 2011

wOriginally posted by : Dinesh S Chawla

hey guys what about the stock reserve yaar? and can anyone please elaborate on the Qn 1(c) about depreciation?????

which stock reserve are you talking about??????????????????


Chetan Sharma (icai) (29 Points)
Replied 06 November 2011

MUJHE TOH YEH SAMAJH NAHI AAATA KI YAHAN SAB PAPER DISCUSS KYU KARTE HAIN YAHAN DISCUSS KARNE SE HAMARE ANSWERS TOH CHANGE NHI HO JAAYENGE?
 



Paigaam (student) (23 Points)
Replied 07 November 2011

Originally posted by : Dinesh S Chawla

hey guys what about the stock reserve yaar? and can anyone please elaborate on the Qn 1(c) about depreciation?????


THe question regarding deprication was a pretty tough on Question 1(c)

If you guys noticed THe value 560000 was CLOSING VALUE of machinery!!!!!

ANd the loss on exhachange turned out to be 17000.......

THe machine was also PART exchanged so the owner paid an extra rs 15000 by bank to buy the new machineas old machine is valued at 135000  where as new machine costs 150000.

This is what i did..........


 

TO BAL b/d SAY x By Bank(loss on sale) 17000
    By Depriciation(on sold machinery) 8000
To bank
(Part amount paid to puchase
NEw machinery)
15000 By Depriciation(on machinery
newly purchased from 30-9-2010
to 31-3-2011)
7500
    By depriciaton (on opening balance )
(10% of x)
0.1x
    By bal c/d 560000
       
       



SO by solving the equation
560000+7500+8000+17000-15000=x-0.1x

577500=0.9x

opening value is 641667
and derpi there on is 64167
m SOOOOOOOOOO confused about this question
 



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