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Sanjeev Parasrampuria (B.Com CA Final CS Final) (273 Points)

15 February 2013

Dear Friends,

CA is sound conceptually but most of CA Student and also CA is poor in comunication skill

and presentation. He/She have vast experience in Finance field but he/She can't able to present this

to another person like Director of Co.,CFO etc.

This is a big problem of CA Field. ICAI is running Orientation and GMCS Program for removing this problem

but these program attend by student only for getting certificate which is requirement of ICAI and not take seriously

because every student get certificate if he/She attend these program. There is no strickness for these program like Test, Grade etc.

In my opinion ICAI should be add a Practical Test Series in these program in which Student present himself in front of Expert Pannel

and Expert give Marks on the basis of his/her performance, if he pass that test series then he will eligible for Exam.

What is your opinion and suggestion regarding this…???

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Ganeshbabu K (Audit and Tax Advisory) (48564 Points)
Replied 15 February 2013

MY OPINION IS

YOU DONT KNOW ANY THING ABOUT CA - --YES SORRY FOR THESE WORDS..

YOU CANNOT SAY LIKE THAT

PLEASE SEE ALL CAS CANNOT BECOME DIRECTORS OR CFOS ,

SOME OF DIRECTORS ARE CA'S,AND CFO'S ALSO THERE

TATA COFFEE,ICICI...ETC

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Sanjeev Parasrampuria (B.Com CA Final CS Final) (273 Points)
Replied 15 February 2013

What you know about CA, tell me dear.

Sanjeev Parasrampuria (B.Com CA Final CS Final) (273 Points)
Replied 15 February 2013

Originally posted by : Ganeshbabu
	MY OPINION IS YOU DONT KNOW ANY THING ABOUT CA

What is lack in above think and give your valuable suggestion.

Ganeshbabu K (Audit and Tax Advisory) (48564 Points)
Replied 15 February 2013

EVERY CA CANNOT BECOME A DIRECTOR OF COMPANY OR CFO

THERE IS CASES WHERE CA'S AS DIRECTORS ,CFO'S

AND ...IF YOU ARE REGULAR IN ICAI SEMINARS,..

WE CAN SEE THEIR LECTURES ALSO,..ALL THIS STRENGTHENS

"EXCEPTIONS ARE ALWAYS THERE"

CAN YOU SAY ANY PROFESSION WHERE EVERY MEMBER IS PERFECT

Yuvraj Singh (CA FINAL ) (135 Points)
Replied 15 February 2013

i think burdening students with more and more training wont help them..i will be monotonous...make the certification serious business outside also..i mean certificate is just a formality..but if u make certificate valid and recognisable in the industry, then it might help the students in overall personality development..they might take interest in this too.

agree all????

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Ganeshbabu K (Audit and Tax Advisory) (48564 Points)
Replied 15 February 2013

NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THIS

OUR INSTITUTE WAS TAKING CARE ABOUT THIS

AND ONE CAN IMPROVE THEIR COMMUNICATION SKILLS AND IMPROVE THEM SELVES BY ATTENDING RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMME ,GMCS, AND OTHER SEMINARS CONDUCTED BY ICAI FROM TIME TO TIME.

accepting that oppurtunity and improving THEMSELVESis the responsibility of ours

EXCEPT THAT WE CANNOT BLAME ANY ONE

RECENTLY ICAI BANGALORE HAS STARTED A YOU TUBE CHANNEL ALSO,

WHO CANNOT FIND TIME TO ATTEND FOR DISCUSSIONS,CLASSES CONDUCTED BY ICAI CAN ACCESS FROM THIS YOUTUBE SITE.

ABOUT ICAI BANGALORE YOURUBE CHANNEL

LIKE THIS ICAI WAS TRYING THEIR BEST TO MAKE MEMBERS BEST IN THE GLOBAL MARKET

NOW IT IS THE TURN OF OURS,..AND EVRY BODY IS TRYING THEIR LEVEL BEST TO IMPROVE THEM SELVES

SO ...NO NEED TO WORRY ON THIS

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Lokesh (CS professional) (493 Points)
Replied 15 February 2013

Mr. Sanjeev has rightly said that CA's are very poor at communication skills.

But, I am also agree with Mr. Ganeshbabu that all CA's are not like that. They are placed at the top notches of the companies.

But I have certain questions to Sri Ganeshbaba and Sri Sanjeev

1) Can u compare a MBA or CA as far as communication is concerned???

An MBA is far better than a CA!!!!!!!!

2) What ICAI does for improving the communication skills for its students???

It takes a paper of business communication and a training of 15 days i.e GMCS course. Will this much sufficient for the problem of communication. You can't master in communication overnight or in just 15 days.

3) Why ICAI has launched a course on MBF(Master in Business and Finance)???

You people are already experts in the field of Finance. It is only for Comm. skills where you people are taught by the faculties of MBA institutes.

As far as top positions are concerned then those are very few, who joined the companies in 1970-80's when communication was not much required.

Now Globalisation has made communication a very important key factor in promotions.

If you don't know how to communicate then keep ur knowledge with urself and just sit at home and do ur practice.

This is a bitter and hard fact and we must accept it.

I, Atlast humbly requires ur suggestions and comment on the above discussion.

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Sanjeev Parasrampuria (B.Com CA Final CS Final) (273 Points)
Replied 16 February 2013

Originally posted by : Lokesh

Mr. Sanjeev has rightly said that CA's are very poor at communication skills.

But, I am also agree with Mr. Ganeshbabu that all CA's are not like that. They are placed at the top notches of the companies.

But I have certain questions to Sri Ganeshbaba and Sri Sanjeev

1) Can u compare a MBA or CA as far as communication is concerned???

      An MBA is far better than a CA!!!!!!!!

2) What ICAI does for improving the communication skills for its students???

      It takes a paper of business communication and a training of 15 days i.e GMCS course. Will this much sufficient for the problem of communication. You can't master in communication overnight or in just 15 days.

3) Why ICAI has launched a course on MBF(Master in Business and Finance)???

     You people are already experts in the field of Finance. It is only for Comm. skills where you people are taught by the faculties of MBA institutes.

As far as top positions are concerned then those are very few, who joined the companies in 1970-80's when communication was not much required.

Now Globalisation has made communication a very important key factor in promotions.

If you don't know how to communicate then keep ur knowledge with urself and just sit at home and do ur practice.

This is a bitter and hard fact and we must accept it.

I, Atlast humbly requires ur suggestions and comment on the above discussion.

I agree with you. MBF course is a seperate course which also help for student but i say if ICAI implement this type of think in the process of CA then this is also better for student.

Prabhat Mittal (Job) (182 Points)
Replied 16 February 2013

Well, this is right that CA's generally lack communication skill in their inital years of Jobs. This is because there are no specific programs in built in our course which help us in improving communication skills.

However looking towards ICAI for introudcing specific course / test-series etc. is not the only option. Communication Skill in one thing where all CA students can work on themselves (by taking courses available by other institutes etc.)

And please guys do not compare CA's & MBA's. There is really no comparison as CA's have different skill set and MBA's have different. In general CA is better because CA's can do an MBA's job but MBA can never do a CA's Job.

Prabhat Mittal

www.pace2race.com

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CA.ViVeK M ACA (ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT) (28544 Points)
Replied 16 February 2013

If a candiate can able to qualify the Chartered Accountancy Exam, then, developing inter personal skills and communication skills are not at all a difficult thing.

After Qualify the CA course, the importance given for the process of studies were decreased. Instead, Fin d some good training center who are rendering the soft skills must be find out.

Soft skills can be enhanced by the constant training and self initiative.

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Sanjeev Parasrampuria (B.Com CA Final CS Final) (273 Points)
Replied 16 February 2013

Originally posted by : CA.ViVeK M ACA
	If a candiate can able to qualify the Chartered Accountancy Exam, then, developing inter personal skills and communication skills are not at all a difficult thing. After Qualify the CA course, the importance given for the process of studies were decreased. Instead, Fin d some good training center who are rendering the soft skills must be find out. Soft skills can be enhanced by the constant training and self initiative.

I think that time (After CA) is not suitable for improving the Soft Skill because that time is for Employment or searching job and for interview in which these skill is necessary.

Someone said that "Tomorrows Work Do Today"

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